New 20 tall aquarium, what to do next

[deranged chipmunk]

So many ipad spasms.

that's because apple is the devil's corporation ed!!!LOL

[fish4all]

My compact fluorescent bulbs are 70 watt equivalent, 6500K and 1165 lumens. jut wanted to share the info of what I have found. I imagine one of them light a good sized tank plenty bright for most plant.

I was curious after reading your post Ed about penetration being an issue. I know it will diffuse a little but the lumens lost shouldn't be significant. I know for aquariums one has a lot of lost light that low growing plants can't use but through glass and air I wasn't aware that there was that much difference in the first 2 feet of lighting. Good reflector and quality lighting being used of course.

If I don't add a water feature like a waterfall or other running water type and only put in a pond section how high should I make the false bottom?

[deranged chipmunk]

you are correct that light doesn't lose as much through air as it does through water. the par values decrease less than 1% through air.

if you are just doing a small pond, i would go with a hydroton base. why waste critical air space if it's not necessary?

[fish4all]

That is what the basic idea is that I have. I don't know about wasted air space but I definitely want something under the plant substrate to prevent bogging.

Pond will likely be as large as I can make it or as large a container as I can put in there. Hoping to find a deep glass dish that will fit right in there so less need to fill in gaps and stuff to keep both food and frogs out. Will be less than half though, more likely 1/3 to 1/4 of the length and full depth of the tank. I don't want to silicone a piece of glass in but I may just do it to make it simpler. Can always take it out if I want to change things another day.

[DartEd]

that's because apple is the devil's corporation ed!!!LOL

Hahaha. I say the same but it was a birfdee gift from my wife and it sure is kinda neat. Steve Jobs' spirit has possessed me. I was a die hard android and pc guy but the iPad is nice. I would never buy the devils phone though. Android phones for life!

[deranged chipmunk]

oh yeah....i am 100% android. mainly because my android can spell birthday.....rotf!!!

[DartEd]

TOUCHÉ Monsieur *****cat

Edit. The forum just censored a Tom and Jerry line?? Ok weird.

[deranged chipmunk]

that's because you used a "george carlin" word.....lol and sorry bud, i couldn't resist....lol next time try mixing tom and jerry with some tweety bird.....puddytat....lol