Most humane way to cull a RETF?

[FlyingPollock]

I have a juvenile RETF that has been prolapsing about once a week since I've had him. I've done the honey water soaks, but they don't seem to work. He's getting steadily skinnier and I'm sure a prolapse is painful.

at what point should I consider culling him and what's the most humane way to do this?

[Sunshine]

I am very sorry to hear about your baby. I'm not sure when it would be appropriate, but I have heard that Neosporin with the pain reliever is the most humane. It is the pain reliever in the neosporin that does it. Put some on his back and he will just go to sleep. I'm sure someone else will have more info.

[flybyferns]

Hi,
Sorry you are having such a problem. I believe there is an explanation for this.
I'm sure you have spoken to other people about this.
But, may I ask:
What do you feed him ?
If you feed him crickets - EXACTLY- what size are the crickets?
How big is he from the tip of his nose to his vet?
What is the temperature of his enclosure - day and night?
How large is the prolapse?
Does he get it back in on his own?
If not, what do you to help him?
Has he ever been treated for parasites?
If chronic constipation is causing the repeated prolapse problems .........constipation could be is a symptom of MBD
Do you use a calcium supplement.
Is there moss in the tank?
Do you bowl feed him?
When is the last time he pooped?
And - what did it look like ! Please be specific

You could email-Dr Frye- he may have a very simple remedy
http://www.frogforum.net/tree-frogs/...-prepared.html

[FlyingPollock]

First of all, thanks for taking the time to answer this thread.
Small Crickets (1/4"-1/3")
he is 1.5", his sister is a bit over 2"
the top of his tank is 75 during the day, the bottom is around 72 at night it drop about 8-10 degrees
the prolapse is roughly 1/4inches
he retracts it on his own after about 5 hours uusually the honey bath doesn't seem to help.
Never been treated for parasites
I use repashy calcium and multi vitamins
There is tropical pillow moss on the floor
He isn't bowl fed, seems to hunt well

[flybyferns]

First of all, thanks for taking the time to answer this thread.
Small Crickets (1/4"-1/3")
he is 1.5", his sister is a bit over 2"
the top of his tank is 75 during the day, the bottom is around 72 at night it drop about 8-10 degrees
the prolapse is roughly 1/4inches
he retracts it on his own after about 5 hours uusually the honey bath doesn't seem to help.
Never been treated for parasites
I use repashy calcium and multi vitamins
There is tropical pillow moss on the floor
He isn't bowl fed, seems to hunt well

Good Morning,
Well I am happy to say there is something that needs to be change immediately

Remember- there is a reason for this! It's curable

Let him continue to get it back in himself.
Handling him for a soak may be adding additional stress. They do best if you can ( in the least stressful way possible ) get him onto the glass. He will wiggle it back in.

The daytime temp is too low.
They can not digest their food properly if the temp is too cool.
day 78-80 ( try to maintain this in the entire tank ) if possible
Be sure the temp gauges you are using are accurate
( if you have a reptile type/ probe gauge - these are not very reliable )
I would get to a pet shop and purchase a few of these little glass type aquarium thermometers as they are easily moved around to monitor things and VERY accurate !

Aquarium Thermometers, Aquarium Thermometers | PetSolutions

or better yet these :
JW Pet Fusion Smart Temp Thermometer Magnetized
the magnet can be used to suspend it form a large leaf.

This is suspended right in the center of my red eyed enclosure

enlarge the pic - note the temp - the lights came a 1/2 hr ago ( 7:30)

night temps 71-75
humidity 70%--80% ( not over 80% unless just misted)

You will want to continue be sure the crickets are NOT > 1/4" At that the time of purchased these will be considered "small".
Be sure they are not selling you mediums. Find out what day they get their deliveries? Go on the following day if possible.

I would still email Dr Frye - It will cost you NOTHING- to speak to him.
#1 he may suggest something on the cricket / consider bowl feeding ( do both for starters floor and bowl)
#2 he may suggest a parasitic treatment ( panacur will cost you $14 plus shipping of which is paid via credit card or paypal )

I have some soaking questions:
How is the frog soaking- please be specific ---water type/size of the soaking dish / depth of the water/ how many frogs share the dish.

BTW put one of the little thermometers in their water dish ? I would be interested to know what the temp is?

If you decide you are unable to keep him I will take him off your hands.
I see you live in Ithaca, I will be at the White Plains show on April 27th if you would like to bring him there.
http://www.frogforum.net/off-topic/2...tml#post171100

Lynn