Been away for a while, back with a troubling situation...

[Heatheranne]

I'm thinking he may need some calcium. Since he is not eating, he is missing out on supplements.

[HerpDerp]

I'm going to get some pedialyte tonight after work. How can I get some calcium in him if he's not eating? can I put some of his powder in the water? Or does pedialyte have calcium in it? The repti safe I use has added calcium, but I suspect that doesn't really do much? Should I quarantine him or will that give him unnecessary stress? I honestly don't think it's anything contagious, but it may be easier to monitor? I don't know . I'm sure I'm rambling a bit, but it's just so stressful to have this happen when I thought I was doing everything right.

[Pibblet]

Hi Michelle,

I'm so sorry that you and the little ones have to deal with this. I wanted to put it out there, perhaps this will help you.

I worked at Petco doing animal care for a little over a year. My store had White's for sale, and the little guys always died after several months. The enclosure they were kept in was all wrong, and the breeders were just god awful. They looked healthy initially, but over the course of weeks and months, they would lose appetite, and wither away. Despite bringing this up to management, and the district higher ups, nothing was done about it, because they obviously knew much more than some associate. :/

White's tree frogs at Petco are notorious for coming from mass breeders, often with the little guys riddled with bacteria they succumb to over time. The store would not let me take these frogs or put them aside for recovery, and they were not worth the company's money in terms of cultures, etc. at a reptile vet, and they didn't care whether these frogs lived or died. Just scanned 'em out when they died and reordered more when they were gone.

Long story short, I scanned out four remaining frogs as dead and snuck them out of the store with an associate manager approval. Thanks to Dr. Frye and a good round of anti-biotics and treatment, I now have two, fat little plumper White's who pulled through, and who are as green and happy as can be. I'm not diagnosing them, but there's a good chance that he may need anti-biotics. So many White's are kept together and often, employees don't keep up with the waste and bacteria they accumulate.

Orestes, the smaller white's of the two, had the same symptoms of shedding constantly and loss of appetite with extreme lethargy. It was a month long ordeal, but he made it and now he has some really weird habits to show for it, haha.

I apologize for the long ramble, but your story brought it all back and needless to say I quit and refuse to shop there. Best of luck to you and the little guys, I hope they make a full and swift recovery.

[HerpDerp]

This really makes total sense. Glurmo was at the petco for a very long time and his tank mate had already died. Lrrr was just a baby when I got him and he's doing worlds better than Glurmo ever did. How much did those antibiotics cost you and what were they? And what was the exact problem with these frogs? I don't know why I didn't think of contacting Dr. Frye. It sounds like I may have to put off reconstructing their vivarium until after Glurmo is better! I really hope he gets better . I was also thinking of buying another frog from the reptile expo this coming weekend, but now I'm thinking I should wait .

[Pibblet]

I hope so too! Orestes hadn't eaten for over a month, so you can imagine I was a bit desperate. He was mostly bones, all brown, and sat in his water bowl all the time. I honestly thought he wasn't going to make it. After a good round of treatment, he actually started climbing and trying to go after food. He was a bit weak and clumsy, mind you, and after this whole ordeal, he's a spoiled brat who is tong fed and goes out of his way to perch on my finger like a bird. Sending good vibes for Glurmy and hope he makes a swift recovery!

http://www.frogforum.net/tree-frogs/...-prepared.html

If you don't have a reptile vet in your area (or a knowledgeable one in my case), Dr. Frye is your best bet. He and his staff are amazing, and the medicine he prescribed them was affordable.

[HerpDerp]

I just emailed Dr. Frye. I'm really hopeful that he'll have a solution. After watching my pacman frog whither away to nothing and die, I refuse to see that happen again. It's a good thing that frogs are so rewarding because man, they can be a pain in the butt!