Sexing, and adspersus vs Edillius

[bullythefrog]

Hi Everyone!

Can I confirm two things:
- this frog is a female (based on everything I've read in the carehseet and the forum). S/he is now 4 inches long.
- this is Pyxicephalus adspersus not Edillius

Thanks all!

[ejh805]

Looks like an adspersus to me

[habeeb]

def adspersus but as for a female?? im leaning towards male more than female...u know how old it is?

[bullythefrog]

def adspersus but as for a female?? im leaning towards male more than female...u know how old it is?

S/he is about 3.5 months old! Growing quite fast because of the high protein diet

[Lija]

that is a giant for sure, it looks female to me based on head shape and proportion to the body.

[bullythefrog]

Thanks for the feedback! If she's female and is 4 inches now, does that mean she only has 2 more inches to grow?

also, does anyone think shes too obese for her age - i.e., do I need to cut back on her food intake?

thanks all

[Lija]

she might not grow anymore or grow a little, she seems to be ok, not too fat.

[habeeb]

shes fine...i think my female is fatter lol mine is only 4 inchs and pretty much stopped growing

[bullythefrog]

I see. thanks for the feedback again.

I would like your thoughts on this other frog. I suspect this is female too, and s/he is now 5.3 inches SVL. Massively fat as s/he eats self-bred live frog feeders/mice.

Is it a male? Too obese?

[Lija]

oh god.... that a very obese frog, you want to cut food big time and put her on a crush diet asap before it is not too late, no more mice, nightcrawlers only and limit intake.

[bullythefrog]

Oh no!! They can die of obesity??

This is not my frog by the way, but one I was considering getting. In that case, should I not get him/her?

[Lija]

they sure can, imagine a very obese people, they would die out of obesity but technically it is going to be from something else, same with frogs, fat will accumulate in vital organs, eyes and it simply a matter of time when they are going to pass away. young frogs body will try to fight it, bt the longer it is going on the less chances the frog has.
just make sure you are putting him on a diet gradually, meaning don't starve her right away, but no more mice or fish or whatever else she is eating, nightcrawlers, dubia, ever crickets, less and less each feeding, smaller amounts but more frequent and extend time between feedings gradually so the frog got used to increasingly less food.

P.S. oh just saw you are considering getting her, well it's up to you of course, you may save her.

[bullythefrog]

I see.. thanks for the advice!!

Right now I understand that she is being fed american bullfroglets (1.5-2inch) and mice (various sizes) daily. I suppose that must be the reason for the obesity

If I get her, we dont have dubias over here and clean nightcrawlers are hard to get too, and I dont think she will take dead food on tongs.

Can I feed her crickets and small amounts of superworms every 2-3 days just to maintain her energy level? Also should I give her a big space to encourage her to hop around and "exercise" to catch her prey?

Thanks!

[habeeb]

seeing ur new pics u posted she is a she indeed and she is obese....i feed mine male and female mainly dubias but if u cant get any then ur best bet would be gut loaded crickets...but id say like feeding her every 2-3 days for 15 mins of all she can eat crickets will be fine for her...and help make her become healthier....no more mice for awhile...it contains too much fat...superworms contain a lot of fat as well and shouldnt be feed often either but just as a snack...hope this helps

[bullythefrog]

Thanks for the advice! I think I will try to save her

[DeeDub]

Sounds like a bad diet. Don't rescue pets from stores. They will just replace them and continue the cycle of abuse. Not sure if its at a store, and base on the diet I doubt it. I also doubt the bullfroglet feeders are cultured.

I would steer cleer of this frog. Diet should be nightcrawlers, roaches, with crickets once a week if she'll still eat them (females usually do). Mice only occasionally (stick with young rodents...i.e. rat fuzzies/hoppers depending on frog size). I only feed rodent/fowl every 45-60 days.