Toads?

[pacman]

I will be setting up an exo terra 18 x 18 x 18. Just regular Michigan toads. so if anybody has a setup (any kind) of setup will you give me some pics?

[justin shockey]

just look it up on youtube

[John]

For ground dwelling toads you are better off with a long aquarium type enclosure rather than a tall one (they will never use the height). Personally I'm cheap and cheerful - I use the ~50 liter transparent shoebox type thing that walmart sells, and if I want longer I buy the version that is twice as long.

[mikeald]

For ground dwelling toads you are better off with a long aquarium type enclosure rather than a tall one (they will never use the height). Personally I'm cheap and cheerful - I use the ~50 liter transparent shoebox type thing that walmart sells, and if I want longer I buy the version that is twice as long.

Aesthetics is half the fun.

[Kurt]

For ground dwelling toads you are better off with a long aquarium type enclosure rather than a tall one (they will never use the height). Personally I'm cheap and cheerful - I use the ~50 liter transparent shoebox type thing that walmart sells, and if I want longer I buy the version that is twice as long.

I will second that. I have kept a lot of critters in Rubbermaid boxes. Currently in these boxes are my military scorpion, flat-rock scorpion, Asian forest scorpion, emperor newts, blotched tiger salamander, fire-bellied toads, fire skink, and most of my snakes.

[tylototriton]

Sweater boxes are my favorite. I've extolled their virtues on Caudata.org before as well. They create the perfect environment for solely terrestrial species. I love using them for salamanders, especially Ambystomatids. (Another topic entirely) They are perfect for toads as well. Unfortunately they do not make great presentations, but if you're just looking for functionality, they are perfect. Also, i've only ever been able to keep moss alive in sweater boxes.

Alex

[Billy]

For ground dwelling toads you are better off with a long aquarium type enclosure rather than a tall one (they will never use the height). Personally I'm cheap and cheerful - I use the ~50 liter transparent shoebox type thing that walmart sells, and if I want longer I buy the version that is twice as long.

I personally can't say that my male B. valiceps will never use the height of an aquarium. I have him and his female in a 10 gal. aquarium for the time being, and whenever I take off the lid, he jumps right out. I don't know if this is normal, but when he gets out, he will just sit on top of the nearest tank and watch everything that goes on in the room. The female shows no interest in jumping out, though.

[justin shockey]

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[Billy]

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What I said was, he can easily jump to the top of the aquarium, and out of it. He then usually sits on top of the one right next to it. He is a good jumper.

[justin shockey]

no i mean i don't know if its normal

[Billy]

no i mean i don't know if its normal

Oh, ok. As far as I can tell it's normal. But, seeing as both of them are wild caught, he just might want to get out and move around more than being in an aquarium. Awhile back, he discovered that the top of the tank was close enough to jump to and grab on to. As toads are pretty much very smart, he knows he can get out when I open the lid. I also let him roam around my bedroom(this area is toad safe) and he sometimes catches crickets that escape, spiders, and the occasional moth that is near him.
Note that I don't do this with any of my other amphibians, and he is the exception. I have caught and kept many toads in my life, and found that they act more like a dog or person mentally(just my opinion, not trying to anthropormorhise).

[justin shockey]

i you,st to have spade foots they are so cool the biggest one i ever cout was 6incs

[justin shockey]

go to exotic pets .com and look up tree toads

[Kurt]

Be prewarned, tree toads, Pedostibes hosii are very expensive.

[Billy]

Be prewarned, tree toads, Pedostibes hosii are very expensive.

Yeah, I agree. Way to rich for my blood. Very nice toads, but a little on the odd side. When I was first told about them, I was still under the misconception that all toads looked like B. americanus(groud dwelling). I like them, but as I said, too rich for my blood.

[justin shockey]

for rite now yes but i still want one

[Billy]

for rite now yes but i still want one

Yeah, me too.

[Kurt]

Save up your pennies. And study up on it, you don't want to spend that kind of money and not know how to properly take care of it.

[justin shockey]

no but i don't now any sites that have care sheets on them

[Kurt]

You're going to have to do what I do, and that is hit the BOOKS. Look for field guides for Indonesia, Malaysia, and Thailand. They should be able to tell you something about its habitat, life style, and typical food source. From there you can figure out (hopefully) the right husbandry for this animal. You're not likely to find any in your local library and you may have to buy them, most likely from an on-line source such as Amazon. Of course books like this have a tendency to be expensive.

You can also do a search using the taxonomic name, Pedostibes hosii. It might get you better results than the common name. Also read the scientific literature that you may find under that name.

Good luck.