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    Quote Originally Posted by demon amphibians View Post
    It is quick easy method but if you don't have many then moving by hand may be a better option. You don't want to much disruption in your colony. Good move.

    The lag time between berth is 2 months before they will berth again. One month from berth until they will even breed again, and one month to develop the young. This time may vary between 6-8 weeks but closer to 8 weeks is more accurate. I once read on the LLL reptile sight that stated 20 females will berth 500 a month. This is very inaccurate. It will be closer to 600 every two months. I am figuring it was just a sales pitch. If you are seeing 500 a month with 20 females i would love for anyone to let me now this secret.

    I have never had a roach try to protect its young that is very interesting. But then again i have never attempted to remove babies just after berth.
    Yeah the people I won them from usually sell them with the claim that the 35 are capable of producing 600/month, I believe. But I don't believe it. 360-400 maybe, if it goes on like it has. So tho I still have pregnant females, (they molted at different times, over a few week period, and the last to mature was a female), I should expect that 1st one to give another litter and the process to begin again in about 6 wks. I wasn't sure, cuz the males seem to be trying to court the girls who aren't pregnant, but they may just be hanging out together. Those poor guys. I did notice that once everyone was pregnant, they all seemed to hang around together. Not fighting, but if I'd lift something up on one side of tank, there'd just be a bunch of guys there. And now there are little baby guys. Guess they have nothing to do now.

    The 1st litter (dunno what else to call it), was March 1st, and within 24hrs, I was trying to remove them, as they were all together so I thought it'd be easy. But there were 4 ladies on that egg crate and they didn't want to let go. Particularly one, who wouldn't run scared, just held on tightly and dug deeper into the babies. They weren't even that new, and I've seen newly born white nymphs running around free with their brothers and sisters still eating their casing.. So, yeah, it was weird, and I felt bad. But part of it I'm sure was me, and how I interpreted it.

    Thanks for the info.
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    I would say those are some pretty close numbers. Oranges will for sure influence this though. They will molt and mature at different times as well as mate at different times and berth at different times so your males should always have something to DO if you get my drift.
    I think it is so cool how personnal you get with these things. I almost think when it comes feeding time your going to have a guilt trip feeding them to your frogs lol. But hey all of my roaches are my pets as well. At least for now . And they are such a peaceful insect. I never thought i would say such a thing about a roach. Heck I was very close to not getting them at all. My idea of roaches were they are just dirty little Basturds. Lots of entertainment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by demon amphibians View Post
    I would say those are some pretty close numbers. Oranges will for sure influence this though. They will molt and mature at different times as well as mate at different times and berth at different times so your males should always have something to DO if you get my drift.
    I think it is so cool how personnal you get with these things. I almost think when it comes feeding time your going to have a guilt trip feeding them to your frogs lol. But hey all of my roaches are my pets as well. At least for now . And they are such a peaceful insect. I never thought i would say such a thing about a roach. Heck I was very close to not getting them at all. My idea of roaches were they are just dirty little Basturds. Lots of entertainment.
    Once they come out of baby bin either to send off or shake up or simply feed, the attachment ends. I wish them luck as future poop. It just seemed to take so long for the 1st births and during that time I was worrying over whether temp/humidity was ok for molting, whether they'd mate, blah blah.
    I know I've said it before, but I won these and was so surprised, nearly turned it down. Glad I didn't. Never would've imagined I'd invite roaches into my house, working so hard to keep bugs OUT, and then encourage them to breed. It's nuts. But it's all for frog that I have multiple bins of bugs and a fridge with earthworms in the butterdish. She's worth it. And dubia roaches are kinda sweet, in temperament, appearance, and I'm just inferring here, but probably taste.
    "We like our choruses sung together, we like our arms in our brother's arms...
    We sing with our heroes 33 rpm, we're never goin home until the sun says we're finished,
    and I'll love you forever if I ever love at all,
    wild hearts..."
    1.2.0 Felis Catus - "Zoey" "Mouse" "Casey"(step-cat)
    0.1.0 B. a. americanus - "Banjo"
    1.0.0 Myotis lucifugus - "Fiendly" rest in peace, buddy. 06/15/13
    Rest in peace my sweet Ukulele 01/29/14

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