Help a new frog owner out

[clydefrogmom]

that is not a baby, how big he is now? also from what i see the tank is too big, too dry and too open, you need to cover 3 sides of a tank not one.

still waiting for those answers

Working on the covering the other two sides. My son wants to draw them.
More plants maybe?
I also spayed it down again right after this the glass gets all wet when I spray so I wanted a photo first.

[Lija]

when the substrate is so dry as in the pic usually just spraying is not enough, let's wait for those answers and see what needs to be done. I see what you mean by legs not growing, may be genetic and may be not.

[clydefrogmom]

okay I'll answer them in a few...working on my kids homework and prepping dinner, fighting off a migraine, and answering a few business emails...

[Lija]

okay I'll answer them in a few...working on my kids homework and prepping dinner, fighting off a migraine, and answering a few business emails...

lol ok, i know exactly what you mean lol

[Lija]

1. Size of enclosure
10 gal
2. # of inhabitants - specifically other frogs and size differences
just Clyde the Pac Man frog
3. Humidity
right now it says 70 (after a ton of spraying)
4. Temperature
80
5. Water - type - for both misting and soaking dish
water from my filtered fridge, then left out and treated with that drop stuff. I don't even use tap water for cooking...only for cleaning.
6. Materials used for substrate
coco-fiber
7. Enclosure set up i.e. plants (live or artificial), wood, bark and other materials.
one fake plant, large rock/pool in one thing.

8. Main food source
currently the medicial critical care food by syringe. I tried dusted crickets and calcium worms and even wax worms

9. Vitamins and calcium? (how often)
none before since he is not eating. a dropper thing of calcium from the vet. its like .01 ml/day

10. Lighting
light from the room in the day. red bulb for heat (this is the change from the day light we tried before...a few different ones didn't help)

11. What is being used to maintain the temperature of the enclosure
foil on the top of the tank lid 3/4 of it is covered and red colored heat bulb

12. When is the last time he/she ate
a few hours ago bu syringe.

13. Have you found poop lately
not sure what it would look like. so I have no idea

14. A pic would be helpful including frog and enclosure (any including cell phone pic is fine) (on my other thread)

15. How old is the frog
not totally sure...a few months?
16. How long have you owned him/her 4 weeks
17. Is the frog wild caught or captive bred
captive bred

18. Frog food- how often and if it is diverse, what other feeders are used as treats
currently the critical care but I have crickets and waxworms for him

19. How often the frog is handled
right now a few times a day to eat...he won't take it without being picked up... prior to the syringe feeding we only moved him when I cleaned the cage once


20. Is the enclosure kept in a high or low traffic area
low traffic...a bedroom that's only used sometimes for lego play, sleeping.etc (its my son's room)

21. Describe enclosure maintenance (water changes, cleaning, etc)
water changed every other day. it's been completely cleaned a couple days ago after the vet visit. misted a few times a day.

how big is a frog? in inches.

a few things are going on here:
-humidity is totally off, you need to fix humidity asap. substrate has to be wet, not mud like but very moist. humidity has to be 75-80 at all times.
- electrolyte balance of a frog should be very off too -not eating/ dry environment/ just Ca supplements now. that can explain weakness of his legs. Prepare electrolyte bath, 1 part of UNFLAVORED pedyalite 6 parts of treated water, unfiltered tap water treated with conditioner or natural spring water, keep him in warm bath (80-82ishF) for 20 min. in addition get reptiboost and feed him according to instructions. do that for a few days. water level should not be higher then frogs chin, speaking of which, it seems that your water dish is too deep or may be it is just pic
- very high stress levels, you picking him up all the time is not helping unfortunately, it may seem he likes it, but frogs can't appreciate this and would rather be left alone. i understand that at this point you don't have choice, you need to feed him. based on a pics the tank is too big for the size of the frog. you need to minimize space and create more hiding places.
- temps, you need to create night temp drop, night temps should be 75-78, day 80-82 and feed him ( try) only about half an hour after the day light is off. how many hours of daylight he is getting? he needs 12/12 cycle.
- water in his water dish needs to be changed every day.

do that and please keep us updated

[DVirginiana]

Can you do the syringe feeding like... By putting him on a paper towel and then putting one hand behind him to keep him from backing up? That seemed the least stressful way when I had to force-feed mine awhile back.

Can you feel any sort of lump or hard space on the frog's right side? Just wondering. That'll give you an idea of whether or not he's got poo in his system. Just be very gentle when you're feeling for it, since they don't have a lot of protection for their internal organs.

[clydefrogmom]

a little update: he ate a waxworm this morning (yes I know more of a treat than a meal...but he ate it and that's all that matters currently) it's a step in the right direction. Although I placed the worm right in front of him and it crawled away from him and then came right back towards Clyde and he just opened his mouth and gulp..no more worm. (my husband witnessed it). It was only a minute or two after I syringed fed him. I even tried not picking him up...stubborn frog only opened right up when I picked him up.

all three sides are covered. I'll get him another plant or something else today for the area too. Its super dry in our climate inside and no matter how much spraying I do I can't seem to get it over 65 on the humidity. but it seems happier...at least he ate a worm.

[Lija]

those are great news! at this point treat or not, he needs food in do a bath with electrolytes now and give him reptiboost and i think you can skip syringe feeding for a few days to get him hungry and then offer cricket or worm or wax worm again, something that he'd eat on him own and see how it'll go, your goal is to get him eating on his own and keep humidity up.

i live in very dry climate too, it is max 20% in average here, that is why I have a fogger + hydrotherm and still misting once in every few days. hydrotherm is life saver for those dry climates

[DVirginiana]

The air humidity isn't as important if the soil is wet enough (still important, but I know some climates really make that hard). Don't make it swampy or anything, but maybe make the substrate a bit more moist. That way the frog's skin will stay more hydrated, and also the humidity at the level he's breathing will be closer to what it should be.

Also, how do you have the top of the tank? If you don't already, you can tape saran wrap (cling wrap) over about 2/3 of the top. That also holds in humidity and keeps it more constant.

[Heatheranne]

Try covering the tank lid with Saran Wrap or foil about 3/4, but not where the heat lamp is. This will help keep the humidity up. It's easiest to just wrap it right around the lid rather than setting it on top.

[clydefrogmom]

update...sorry its been a week...I'm stuck in the house with my two boys and their fevers!

I have only been feeding Clyde by syringe once a day. He ate a waxworm once last week and we had to let the others go in the yard. I then tried some earthworms/red things (sorry I don't know the formal red earthworm term if there is one) didn't want them.

so this morning after he jumped out of my hand for the fifth time I decide to try a cricket. put it right in front of him...it hopped away but then Clyde moved to face where he went. so I figured I'd get a second one (I have them in their own container thingy in the other room) by the time I fetch another one...Clyde is clearly eating the first one. So I dropped the second one in...GULP!. I added two more crickets and left him to it. Can't find those guys...I'm assuming he ate them.

oh and his back legs are started to look like they should and he is hopping well...when he is getting away from me

finally think we have the lighting he likes...a day heat bulb...one from the pet store. 60 watt I think? and a red night blub. Stays around 78-82 all the time. foil on most of the top. I added a new plant and his water dish looks big but its barely half full. the humidity is now staying around 70ish range...a little up or a little down.

I also started using Spring Water for the spraying and his dish.

I do need to get calcium on his food now that he is eating. I have the powder stuff.

[DVirginiana]

When you feed crickets (especially to young frogs) it is a good idea to remove their hind legs first. I've heard stories of the hind legs getting stuck in their throats before, but also when they can only crawl and not hop the frog has an easier time catching them.
Keep an eye out for those other two crickets or check under his dish; they tend to burrow.
Also, I believe the limit for light is 40 watts (someone correct me if I got that wrong, it's been a long day...). Higher wattages can harm their eyes. I forget, do you already have a heat pad on the side of his tank? That'll bump the heat if you're having trouble keeping it warm enough.

I have to ask... Is Clyde named after Clyde-the-frog on Southpark?

[Heatheranne]

See if you can spray the tank a bit more to keep that humidity up around 80%. You may want to use a more shallow dish until he grows a bit more, so it's easy for him to get in and out.

[clydefrogmom]

When you feed crickets (especially to young frogs) it is a good idea to remove their hind legs first. I've heard stories of the hind legs getting stuck in their throats before, but also when they can only crawl and not hop the frog has an easier time catching them.
Keep an eye out for those other two crickets or check under his dish; they tend to burrow.
Also, I believe the limit for light is 40 watts (someone correct me if I got that wrong, it's been a long day...). Higher wattages can harm their eyes. I forget, do you already have a heat pad on the side of his tank? That'll bump the heat if you're having trouble keeping it warm enough.

I have to ask... Is Clyde named after Clyde-the-frog on Southpark?

Thanks

and no he is not named for Clyde,frog from,south park. He is named after the orange ghost from PACman but yes after we named him we remembered cartman's Clyde frog lol

[Lija]

yay! he is eating now! good news!