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    I got this little sucker yesterday at repticon on baton rouge la. Im really just curious if its a dwarf or a giant african Bullfrog . Little tiny thing makes me think its a dwarf . But I get confused on telling the difference in the babies .


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    looks like a giant to me. its hard to tell from your picture. but what color are those dorsal stripes. ? a nice bright green ? and does he have blue under his back legs?

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    Here are some better pictures . Hoppy little sucker it doesn't stay still long enough to snap a good shot .

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    giant, take a lot of pics, in a few weeks it would hard to believe s/he was so small lol
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    Its def a P. Edulis from the Mozambique aria not P. Adspersus.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Daniel L View Post
    Its def a P. Edulis from the Mozambique aria not P. Adspersus.
    it is giant!
    but since you think differently i wonder why do you think it is edulis?
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    im going to assume he thinks its not Adspersus because of the slight copper color. But its 100% giant
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    it is giant!
    but since you think differently i wonder why do you think it is edulis?

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    Why is he so skinny?

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    Quote Originally Posted by African bullfrogs View Post
    Why is he so skinny?
    because s/he is a very tiny baby, that will change real fast lol
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    all of mine started that tiny , this frog is now huge
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    Thanks for setting me straight . I didn't think it was very skinny I just brought it home last night and its had a couple of dubia . When I feed my pac mans tonight ill get it started on worms .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Daniel L View Post
    Its def a P. Edulis from the Mozambique aria not P. Adspersus.
    no it's not ,

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    Its Adspersus



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    sorry dude i have 6 Adspersus and they are quite big and they are not Mosambichious. and they looked different from each other but all like your pics.the baby in question is Adspersus. and you not given one reason or point as to why it's NOT Adapersus. just reasons you think Edulis. and a true Edulis is NOT pyx. Mozambichious. you have better chance of being struck by lighting than just stumbling upon a Mozam. in a random pet store.

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    Danial posted a pic of my pixie is it a dwarf or giant i always thought giant?Name:  IMG_3163.jpg
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    Bobby, don't ruin all the fun )))) and by the way I'm convinced now all your giants are not giants lol including your big fat one a baby not in question he is giant so as Anna's one

    Daniel, do dwarfs have scientific name, if they are not true edulis?

    from what I understand you saying true giants and true edulis both have same appearance as a babies, did i get it right Daniel? and what we think are edulis are dwarfs, right?
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    Bobby, don't ruin all the fun )))) and by the way I'm convinced now all your giants are not giants lol including your big fat one a baby not in question he is giant so as Anna's one

    Daniel, do dwarfs have scientific name, if they are not true edulis?

    from what I understand you saying true giants and true edulis both have same appearance as a babies, did i get it right Daniel? and what we think are edulis are dwarfs, right?
    I don't know the scientific name of the dwarf, the whole Pyxicephalus species is messed up.

    Yes they both species have the same appearance as babies bust you can tell them appart. They 2 outside green stripes of the young edulis are not as long as the adspersus. They stripes reached not the eyes. But a big differens of the edulis and adspersus is that the adspersus (babie and adults) have a sort of eyebrow above the eyes. The edulis don't have them.

    Edulis babies are getting more brouwnish/grey when get bigger but the adspersus babies becomes more and more green when they get bigger.

    I put some pics of a edulis babie growing in 3 months
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    LOL I am confused now

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    Quote Originally Posted by Daniel L View Post
    I don't know the scientific name of the dwarf, the whole Pyxicephalus species is messed up...
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    I didn't say anything about youre frogs. Its about the frog in this thread. I have 4 adult adspersus, 2 adults P. edulis from Mozambique and 4 True P. edulis so Im reaaly can tell them appart....
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    ...there are 3 species in Pyxicephalidae family:
    1. P. obbianus ( Calabresi's bullfrog) , they are from Somalia, similar to giants, but have a very large tympanum, that is bigger then eye and lies very close to it. I've never heard of them being on a pet trade.
    2. P. adspersus ( giant AB)
    3. P. Edulis ( dwarf AB)
    Hello Daniel! How can the Pyxicephalus genus be "all messed up" when it only has 3 species of known frogs? When an organism has geographical variations that do not warrant separation as a different species, it's correct to name them both by their scientific name. You can add the location to it (i.e. P. edulis from Mozanbique) if you prefer. Until the time the Mozambique type is given it's own name; they are both "True" because that is their scientific name. Have a nice day !
    Remember to take care of the enclosure and it will take care of your frog !​

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    Quote Originally Posted by pyxieBob View Post
    sorry dude i have 6 Adspersus and they are quite big and they are not Mosambichious. and they looked different from each other but all like your pics.the baby in question is Adspersus. and you not given one reason or point as to why it's NOT Adapersus. just reasons you think Edulis. and a true Edulis is NOT pyx. Mozambichious. you have better chance of being struck by lighting than just stumbling upon a Mozam. in a random pet store.
    I didn't say anything about youre frogs. Its about the frog in this thread. I have 4 adult adspersus, 2 adults P. edulis from Mozambique and 4 True P. edulis so Im reaaly can tell them appart.

    Wild catch P. edulis from mozambique are comming more and more. babies and adults animals are seen a lot now in the expo trade and sold as P. adspersus because of its size.

    I put some pics of the babie differences. The adsperus (babie and adults) has a sort of eyebrow above there eyes. The edulis has smoot eyes.

    see the pics.
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