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    Quote Originally Posted by J Teezy View Post
    I hope by this you are saying you are anxious about the life cycle of a frog and not getting into this for the means to try and breed frogs to just sell offspring.

    By supreme mistking kit are you meaning the Ultimate www.mistking.com/ultimate-misting-system.html

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    Oh no that's not it at all. I find dart frogs quite beatiful and fascinating and it amazes me that such little creatures can have such vibrant and bold colorations and I just feel a sence of personal achievement whenever I am able to successfully get something to breed, like I have accomplished something. I got into stingrays for how beautiful and majestic they are, they can have such fascinating colorations and patterns and the way they swim just drew me into them. Making money and selling baby dart frogs has nothing to do with me wanting to get these guys at all. I like to expand my knowledge as much as possible regarding animals because I am just fascinated with the way things live and interact and carry on their lives. I have had and breed various different animals and fish and I have never gotten into amphibians at all and we got two dart frogs in at my work from a local breeder and that was it, I was sold. I now contacted the breeder and am lining up two green and bronze darts and they will be my new babies. I am putting their Viv on my night stand so I can watch them while I lay in bed hahaha. I watch the darts at work every free second I get because of I am just mezmorized while i watch them! So no I am not getting into darts for the idea of breeding and selling but rather for their natural beauty and majesty. Oh ya sorry that's the mistking I'm getting I thought it was called the supreme my fault.

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    Sorry for the double post but what should I use in the way of lighting for this?

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    i couldn't be happier with the Jungle Dawn 13w LED bulbs. Great light output and bring out the color in my plants

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    The jungle dawn lights are great if you wanna go higher end. On the lower end you can use 4500k to 6000k rated cfl bulbs. They keep things warm and provide perfect lighting for good plant growth.

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    I am using a 18" T5 fixture with a 6500K daylight bulb and my plants are growing like weeds. I am clipping back the plants once a week. This is a pretty cheap setup, I think I spent about $25 per tank for the lighting and the price to the result I could not be happier!

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    I have decided to go ahead and get two of the jungle dawn 13 watt LED fixtures so I can do this right.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DartEd View Post
    The jungle dawn lights are great if you wanna go higher end. On the lower end you can use 4500k to 6000k rated cfl bulbs. They keep things warm and provide perfect lighting for good plant growth.
    4500k is a bit low for most tropicals. too much "red". while they will grow, you won't get the healthy growth you would from say a 6500-8000k bulb.
    1.0.0 Oophaga Pumilio 'Black Jeans'
    0.0.10 Phyllobates Vittatus
    0.0.3 Phyllobates Terribilis 'Mint'
    0.0.3 Dendrobates Tinctorius 'Patricia'
    0.0.5 Dendrobates Leucomelas
    0.0.2 Dendrobates Tinctorius 'Powder Blue'
    0.0.2 Ranitomeya Variabilis 'southern'
    0.0.3 Epipedobates Anthonyi 'zarayunga'
    1.2.0 Phyllobates bicolor
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    0.0.1 Gramastola porteri
    0.2.0 Canines
    1.0.0 Tabby/Maine Coon Mix
    2.1.0 Genetics Experiments
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    2 jungle dawn LEDs would be good for this 29 gallon correct?

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    Quote Originally Posted by deranged chipmunk View Post
    4500k is a bit low for most tropicals. too much "red". while they will grow, you won't get the healthy growth you would from say a 6500-8000k bulb.
    After doing a bit more research, I agree that 4500 Kelvin is a bit low on the color spectrum. That being said, most articles do recommend 5000 k to 6500K with 5500 K to 6500K being referred to as the "sweet spot".


    "Choosing the best plant grow lights depends on the types of plants being grown and the purpose for which they are being grown. Plants vary on the colors of light they prefer, but it usually is in the 5,600 Kelvin (K) range of natural daylight, and Kelvin ratings are sometimes imprinted on light packaging. The intensity level of the light and the ideal amount of light vs. dark hours in a day also vary per plant species. Ornamental plants require less intense light in the blue range of the spectrum, versus fruiting and flowering plants that mature best under red- and yellow-tinted light that simulates the end of the growing season..."

    Excerpt from How Do I Choose the Best Plant Grow Lights?

    ive found that 8000K and above generally apply to aquarium applications for plant growth.

    New England Herpetoculture LLC - Vivarium Lighting 101 here's an article on viv listing as well as a place to order lights

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    I always include up to 8000k because in my experience of growing plants indoors for the past decade, that some marginals like the higher color spectrums due to their utilizing algae in the photosynthesis process, much like coral does. That being said, the point is rather moot due to the fact that most people are not going to be running to a specialty (reef shop) for 8000k bulbs.

    And as an aside, the lower color spectrums of something like a high pressure sodium bulb (around 3500k) are very beneficial to plants you want to force into flowering. So there are pluses and minuses to all.
    1.0.0 Oophaga Pumilio 'Black Jeans'
    0.0.10 Phyllobates Vittatus
    0.0.3 Phyllobates Terribilis 'Mint'
    0.0.3 Dendrobates Tinctorius 'Patricia'
    0.0.5 Dendrobates Leucomelas
    0.0.2 Dendrobates Tinctorius 'Powder Blue'
    0.0.2 Ranitomeya Variabilis 'southern'
    0.0.3 Epipedobates Anthonyi 'zarayunga'
    1.2.0 Phyllobates bicolor
    0.0.3 Dendrobates tinctorius 'azureus'
    0.0.1 Avicularia Avicularia
    0.0.1 Gramastola porteri
    0.2.0 Canines
    1.0.0 Tabby/Maine Coon Mix
    2.1.0 Genetics Experiments
    0.1.0 Bed Bully

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