New to dart frogs, first vivarium!

[emandkel]

Green and bronze; and costa rican green and blacks are Auratus and group frogs -- one site even said you can keep 2 Auratus in a 10 gallon. Powder blues; and matechos are in the tinc family and it is my understanding per the research I've done they are territorial and need to be kept in pairs only no matter what the size of tank is, although it needs to be at least a 20 high for two. I'm new to dart frogs too, so please someone correct me if I'm wrong.

After more searching, some sites say Auratus can be territorial as well. I think the general rule even for group frogs is to allow at least 10 gallons per frog.

[flybyferns]

After more searching, some sites say Auratus can be territorial as well. I think the general rule even for group frogs is to allow at least 10 gallons per frog.

Agreed--space is key. ie If you had 4 ,for instance, in a vertical 10 gallon... then subtract the 'space'; the substrate, background, wood takes up.
Not much room left!

[DartEd]

Agreed--space is key. ie If you had 4 ,for instance, in a vertical 10 gallon... then subtract the 'space'; the substrate, background, wood takes up.
Not much room left!

I agree space is key. I also believe that line of sight is important as well. Creating little hiding places where they can escape each others line of sight will create less opportunity for female to female aggression. I agree with Lynn. 10 gallons is a bit small for a pair of these guys. A ten gallon is excellent for a grow out tank or an isolation tank prior to adding a specimen to your viv.

[Keister]

So what I think I am getting from this is, to make these guys group frogs you need a lot of space for them to kind of spread out? I think not having a lot in this tank could be made up for by them successfully breeding and getting new frogs out of them! I just think it would be awesome if I could get them to breed, lay eggs, have the tads, and then have those tads successfully make the transformation into baby frogs! I think you guys have swayed me into getting the mistking supreme kit..... I am looking at dropping over $400 just into making this vivarium right hahaha oh well whatcha gonna do!

[DartEd]

Wow. Wish I had that kind of expendable "frog"cash. I'm jealous. If you can afford the mistking, go for it. Its expandable so it wont become obsolete.

You don't need tons of space, just adequate space with appropriate hideaways for them. D.Auratus are great frogs and youll be super happy with them. Im considering a pair myself for my next build. I believe that breeding and raising any pet from infancy to healthy adulthood is one of the most satisfying experiences.

[emandkel]

So what I think I am getting from this is, to make these guys group frogs you need a lot of space for them to kind of spread out? I think not having a lot in this tank could be made up for by them successfully breeding and getting new frogs out of them! I just think it would be awesome if I could get them to breed, lay eggs, have the tads, and then have those tads successfully make the transformation into baby frogs! I think you guys have swayed me into getting the mistking supreme kit..... I am looking at dropping over $400 just into making this vivarium right hahaha oh well whatcha gonna do!

You had mentioned the monsoon ... I have 3 of them and all are turned off now, because for whatever reason, the monsoon started misting every few seconds, time after time, even when I had it set to go off every 8 hours or so. And I've read other reviews that say similar results or that it stopped working.

[Keister]

You had mentioned the monsoon ... I have 3 of them and all are turned off now, because for whatever reason, the monsoon started misting every few seconds, time after time, even when I had it set to go off every 8 hours or so. And I've read other reviews that say similar results or that it stopped working.

Ya I didn't even know there was such a thing as a mistking until they mentioned it, and I have now decided to buy the mist king supreme! I am so excited to get this vivarium set up, I am trying to make it look awesome! What should I use in the way of lighting and heating for this tank? I don't have all the money in the world and so I don't want the most expensive LEDs in the world or anything. Also do the darts need uv and if so would it be 5.0 or 2.0?