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    Stephan Lapin
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    Unhappy Frog help ASAP

    My little Budgett Frog who I have had for a few weeks is acting odd, He is not eating and he swims around the tank, swims in circles and does somersaults. I feel this is very odd behavior and I'm very worried about him

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    Default Re: Frog help ASAP

    Answer these questions and repost the answers here in your thread. http://www.frogforum.net/pacman-frog...enclosure.html

    Be sure to add photos of your setup and the frog.


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    1. Size of enclosure
    10 gallon tank
    2. # of inhabitants - specifically other frogs and size differences
    budgett frog
    3. Humidity
    none
    4. Temperature
    76
    5. Water - type - for both misting and soaking dish
    spring water
    6. Materials used for substrate
    none?
    7. Enclosure set up i.e. plants (live or artificial), wood, bark and other materials.
    - How were things prepared prior to being put into the viv.
    three large rocks, heating, and filter

    8. Main food source
    super worms, earth worms, crickets
    9. Vitamins and calcium? (how often)
    none
    10. Lighting
    none
    11. What is being used to maintain the temperature of the enclosure
    aqua heating
    12. When is the last time he/she ate
    yesterday - small green caterpillar
    13. Have you found poop lately
    not that I know of
    14. A pic would be helpful including frog and enclosure (any including cell phone pic is fine)
    not at this time,
    15. How old is the frog
    I don't know, a baby?
    16. How long have you owned him/her
    since the January 28th?
    17. Is the frog wild caught or captive bred
    don't know
    18. Frog food- how often and if it is diverse, what other feeders are used as treats
    none
    19. How often the frog is handled
    every other day
    20. Is the enclosure kept in a high or low traffic area
    ??
    21. Describe enclosure maintenance (water changes, cleaning, etc)
    put in gallon of new water when some water evaporates and the filter stops

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    Water temp should be between 78° and 85° at all times. Try and raise the water temp by adding a heat lamp if necessary. They do need a 12 hour day/night cycle. If the room the frog is in is too dark and doesn't recieve much light then a heat lamp can provide both supplemental heat and light for the day/night cycle.

    You should provide a reptile/amphibian multivitamin and calcium powder supplement. This could be neurological which can come from vitamin deficiencies of poor genetics.

    Could also be stress. Handling every other day is a lot of handling. They should only be handled when absolutely necessary. Temps being to cool can also cause stress.

    High or low traffic area means do people have to walk by the enclosure a lot or its noisey from a TV, ect.

    Do you check your PH levels and water quality?

    You should also provide places for your frog to hide so that it doesn't feel exposed ghus making it feel secure.


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    How do I check ph level? and he is on my dresser so I walk by where he is. How do i add the powder if he only eats critters in the water? Why does he do somersaults when I come to check up on him? is he just scared?

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    There also seems to be calcium build up on the inside of the tank, will think effect my froggy and how do i get rid of it.

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    Default Re: Frog help ASAP

    I'm not entirely certain why he does the summersaults. To me that sounds like a neurological problem.

    I've asked an experienced Budgetts keeper to assist you further. I do not own a Budgetts so he may be able to give further details to the issue.


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    How soon can he get back to me?

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    He is reading your thread now. JIvoryII.


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    ok let see... spring water may still have chemicals I would suggest always using a water declorinater and I think tap water is better then bottled. you need to change at least 50% of his water once a week even with the filter. I only handle my budgett's when I do a complete tear down cleaning on their tank. so stress could be a big factor...
    how deep is his water? what was the green caterpiller?
    Temp should be a little warmer 78 or so... try feeding him some mollys , platys or guppies every so often and frozen thawed rodents once in a while. maybe a half pipe or cave he can hide in could help...

    pics would help

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    it's natural spring water and my african clawed frogs and turtle are fine with swimming in. He seems to be a picky eater he ate very well for the past week but now he's just being picky.
    I'm also not sure what the caterpillar was, my sis fed it to him while I was in classes. water level is about three or so inches deep
    I will try to post pics


    Also why does he scamper around and do flips?

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    Can I get pics to you Wednesday? it's 11 here and I need to sleep before classes

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    they can be very flighty mine will watch me one minute and freak for no reason the next... not sure about the flips ... how deep is his water and how long is he?

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    thats fine... it my just be that he is scared and freaking out... you can add a little vitamin powder to his water.

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    set up looks fine. I keep mine in a little deeper water, but that is deep enough. I would give him a hide.. when he does the flipping does he come out of the water?

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    No, when he freaks out he scampers around in the water, swims in circles and does flips

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    I cleaned my frog's tank today and he sort of just floats around.... I also caught him floating on his back what's wrong with him?

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    Default Re: Frog help ASAP

    Quote Originally Posted by Stephan Lapin View Post
    I cleaned my frog's tank today and he sort of just floats around.... I also caught him floating on his back what's wrong with him?
    There is a possiblity that whatever that caterpiler was that it could have been poisonous. Some Butterfly and moth larvae are toxic. You should never feed your frog something that you don't know is safe for it to eat. You also should not feed them anything wild caught because they pose a risk of carrying parasites and pesticides whci will harm or kill your frog.

    Is he responsive??


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    sort of he wiggles his arms and legs but mostly he just floats lifelessly on his side
    When I came home from school he was on his back near the filter. So I turned him back on his tummy

    What should I do??

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