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    Quote Originally Posted by UncleChester View Post
    I only have one Hyla cinerea, but I can tell you it has a few behavioral differences compared to my Hyla versicolors. Even after over 2 years, the American Green is more skittish then random wild Grays. It seems much happier to tuck itself in a corner and hide, compared to Grays that will sit out proudly in the open. Wild Grays will often take food right from my fingertips, my American Green took several months to get comfortable with this. So time and patience will be a big factor here.

    You can try putting the crickets in the freezer for a minute or so- long enough for them to stop moving but not long enough to kill them. Drop some in front of each frog. As the crickets warm up and stop moving, they are easy pickings and you may be able to see both frogs eat this way. Not much help if they're sitting side by side so if you're still worried about them both eating, be sure to provide an abundance of food.

    Also, in the two years I think I've seen my American Green sitting in it's water pool a grand total of one time, and on the ground maybe only a couple dozen times and even then only briefly. My Grays will soak themselves frequently, and although they prefer to be up on perches after eating something on the ground they tend to sit on the bottom of the tank for a few hours contemplating life.
    That's a bit disappointing to hear. I loved my old Gray Tree Frogs that just passed, they were beyond amazing. So active and adorable with each other, moving around and basking in their pool. I guess I may consider getting a second tank and some more Gray Tree Frogs from my backyard over the summer. Back home, they lay eggs in the family pool, and we transfer the majority of the tadpoles into a smaller kiddy pool in order to develop (hoping that's ok for them). After seeing how many congregated around the pool my girlfriend and I decided to take two males for some adorable pets. Thank you for the tip about the quick freezing the crickets too, I'll give that a shot sometime, but I think the next time I'll simply toss 4 crickets in instead of 2 and hope it works out.

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    It may just be my American Green is more of a chicken than usual- I only have experience with the one and they aren't native here like the Grays. I don't think any frog is as charming as a Gray, but she's still pretty awesome. I didn't realize that American Greens had such a range of colour changing ability (mine flops from bright green to brown) and she's slimmer and more elegant than a blocky looking Gray. She's also relatively more voracious, gobbling food in a flash as opposed to a Gray that takes time to swallow and savour, and I think she's faster when she hops around (I named her 'Bamf!', as in a teleporting sound). Different, but still a very enjoyable frog to keep.

    Getting another tank for a couple Grays again wouldn't be wrong though

    Quote Originally Posted by Gentlemangorath View Post
    Back home, they lay eggs in the family pool, and we transfer the majority of the tadpoles into a smaller kiddy pool in order to develop (hoping that's ok for them).
    That's probably much better than getting sucked into a pool filter or living in chlorine.

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    It may just be my American Green is more of a chicken than usual- I only have experience with the one and they aren't native here like the Grays. I don't think any frog is as charming as a Gray, but she's still pretty awesome. I didn't realize that American Greens had such a range of colour changing ability (mine flops from bright green to brown) and she's slimmer and more elegant than a blocky looking Gray. She's also relatively more voracious, gobbling food in a flash as opposed to a Gray that takes time to swallow and savour, and I think she's faster when she hops around (I named her 'Bamf!', as in a teleporting sound). Different, but still a very enjoyable frog to keep.

    Getting another tank for a couple Grays again wouldn't be wrong though



    That's probably much better than getting sucked into a pool filter or living in chlorine.
    Definetly better. Quick side question, I've always had a little trouble with maintaining humidity in the tank, and have since realized it's because of the screen top on my tank. I want to cover this, but I don't want to block the frogs' vertical view. Could seran wrap work to cover the top and keep the humidity in, or would the plastic degrade over time or something? I would have to change it every so often regardless, but if this is flat out bad for them, I'll find an alternative. A flat, see through piece of glass/plastic or something.

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    Plastic wrap will work. But glass or plexi would be better since you won't have to constantly change it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by deranged chipmunk View Post
    Plastic wrap will work. But glass or plexi would be better since you won't have to constantly change it.
    Well it would be a temporary fix until i can get some glass or something. How often should I change it do you think?

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    Weekly or whenever it gets holes in it.
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    Default Re: Questions about what to do with new Green Tree Frogs

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    Definetly better. Quick side question, I've always had a little trouble with maintaining humidity in the tank, and have since realized it's because of the screen top on my tank. I want to cover this, but I don't want to block the frogs' vertical view. Could seran wrap work to cover the top and keep the humidity in, or would the plastic degrade over time or something? I would have to change it every so often regardless, but if this is flat out bad for them, I'll find an alternative. A flat, see through piece of glass/plastic or something.
    If you have a Lowes close by they sale glass there and cut it to size for free. I had a piece cut for the top of my enclosure and it cost me $3. All I do is pull it off every other week and clean it the put it back on.

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    If you have a Lowes close by they sale glass there and cut it to size for free. I had a piece cut for the top of my enclosure and it cost me $3. All I do is pull it off every other week and clean it the put it back on.
    I'm probably gonna do that today since I have a Lowe's right near by. Just go in with the dimensions and ask or a cut piece of glass? And the froggies still haven't come out of hiding yet . I'm considering doing what I did with my Grays occasionally when they were first adjusting, take out the log they're hiding in, don't force them out, but try to feed them with the tweezers, let them feel safeish (this worked for my Gray's at least, they were fine with tweezer feeding afterward). I dunno if it will scare these little guy's too much though .

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    Live plants will also help with humidity. So does misting a couple of times a day.

    Ventilation is also important for treefrogs, so don't block the entire top off. You could always try the saran wrap for a few weeks to get a feel for how much of the vent you need to block off to get humidity where you want it before you get a piece of glass cut.

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    Quote Originally Posted by UncleChester View Post
    Live plants will also help with humidity. So does misting a couple of times a day.

    Ventilation is also important for treefrogs, so don't block the entire top off. You could always try the saran wrap for a few weeks to get a feel for how much of the vent you need to block off to get humidity where you want it before you get a piece of glass cut.
    I'm already fairly comfortable with how much I want to cover up, although I've now also noticed the temperature is alittle low, so maybe I need to replace the bulb soon. I guess there was a lot of stuff I had to touch up.

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    Well they're finally settling in completely I think, minus them still being a bit afraid of me most likely. Any time I come into the room during their night time activity, they freeze up and try to hide, maybe even retreat back to their den. They're both eating from tweezers however, so they must be adjusting to me at least a little. Plus, Verde spent the day time today outside of the den, so hopefully that's another good sign. And just cause everyone likes frog pictures,



    Verde emulating that previous picture of Cain (that I mistakenly labeled as Abel), clinging to the side while staring.



    Boom, during another attempted meet and greet (this one successful). Just want to double check though, is his dark dark green color ok? He went back to a decent shade of green when he went back into the tank, so I assume its just him trying to slightly blend to my skin, but if it is something, it'd be great to catch it early.



    Boom hanging out on the log after I put him/her back into the tank.



    Verde taking up the peak of Pride Log, just like Abel used to.



    Verde during his meet and greet, done on a seperate night then the other image with Boom. Didn't want to scare them both in one night :P.



    Verde during the day, relaxing/hiding behind the plant in the corner of the tank.

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    Quote Originally Posted by UncleChester View Post
    It may just be my American Green is more of a chicken than usual- I only have experience with the one and they aren't native here like the Grays. I don't think any frog is as charming as a Gray, but she's still pretty awesome. I didn't realize that American Greens had such a range of colour changing ability (mine flops from bright green to brown) and she's slimmer and more elegant than a blocky looking Gray. She's also relatively more voracious, gobbling food in a flash as opposed to a Gray that takes time to swallow and savour, and I think she's faster when she hops around (I named her 'Bamf!', as in a teleporting sound). Different, but still a very enjoyable frog to keep.
    So I had a pair of Greens for about 1+ month that I rescued and nursed back to health While I had them they stayed hidden and were very skittish and VERY VOCAL right before I donated them to a reliable pet owner for a permenant home. So what I thought was a characteristic of theirs from not being cared for properly sounds like it may just be the natural behavior of the little guys. Good to know, I kinda miss the little guys but I prefer a more outgoing frog like my Whites, I already have a pair of chickens with my Dendrobates Vents.

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