Prepare a Medicine Cabinet and Supplies

[Lixra]

Great post

I always kept those stackable bead containers from craft stores in mine as well to use as fecal jars. They're brilliant and the vets love them, as you can write the name of each animal on the side with a sharpie, and they're cheap! We keep a few extras in our first aid box, but we have more reptiles than amphibians (I'm working on that...), so certain things that wouldn't be used with frogs we've used with them (like KY Jelly, don't laugh... it's a water based lubricant that is great when a snake has a bed shed!)

[flybyferns]

Great post

I always kept those stackable bead containers from craft stores in mine as well to use as fecal jars. They're brilliant and the vets love them, as you can write the name of each animal on the side with a sharpie, and they're cheap! We keep a few extras in our first aid box, but we have more reptiles than amphibians (I'm working on that...), so certain things that wouldn't be used with frogs we've used with them (like KY Jelly, don't laugh... it's a water based lubricant that is great when a snake has a bed shed!)

Thank You, Lixra
We need to be prepared !
We are trying very hard to get this message of being prepared ( ahead of time ) across to members.
It's only a matter of time - as to when a frog will need this kind of medically guided support !
I will probably make this a sticky ?

The ky is probably good for a frog's intestinal prolapse as well.
I sometimes worry about a honey/soaks for a frog prolapse?
??? honey in the outer intestinal lining??? don't know if that's such a good idea... my gut tells me .... not a good idea
It's the warm soaks and a few days of no food that works just fine.

I worry about oil base neosporin as well getting in their eyes.
I decided not to mention anything about the neo. I would not use it.
I keep the SSD on hand ( at all times ) for any broken frog skin....of which needs to used immediately or real trouble starts

The bead containers ARE great. I use them for water throughout the dart tanks; easily hid by leaf litter!

Thoughts?

Good to talk to you ! Lynn

[Lixra]

I've never used the honey treatment as I've never had to (knock on wood), so can't give my two cents on that unfortunately. As far as the Neosporin, I was always taught not to buy any with the pain reliever in it as it could have harmful effects on the reptiles, as far as with amphibians I don't know.

This is what's included in my kit, it was compiled based on Melissa Kaplan's recommendations on Anapsid.org:

Betadine (Povidone Iodine solution)
Nolvassan (chlorhexadine diacetate) or Hibiclens (chlorhexadine gluconate) - disinfectant
Assorted needles
Assorted syringes
Eye Dropper
Bead containers (fecal jars)
Kwik Stop (Styptic Powder - stops bleeding)
Claw Clippers
Pill cutter/crusher
KY Jelly (without spermicide)
Paper first aid tape (goes against reptile skin and releases without damaging the scales)
Adhesive first aid tape (goes on top of the paper tape)
Mineral Oil (Lubricant)
Q-Tips
Gauze Sponges
Photo Loupe (used for looking at negatives, works great for looking at reptile skin after shed)
Stethoscope
Terry Towels
Calcium gluconate
Calcium glubionate
Diorlyte (the UK's version of Pedialyte)
Reptile Critical Care formula
Sterlie saline
Germolene (antibiotic ointment)
Silvadene cream (burn treatment)
Fenbendazole (Panacur)
Metronidazole (Flagyl)
Enrofloxacin (Baytril)
10lbs Food Scale
and Tylenol - For me... haha

[flybyferns]

Yes - neo with pain reliever will euthanize a frog !

Are you a member here ? I'm sure you would enjoy the company .
<font color="FF6600">Anura: Frogs & Toads</font> - Tree Frogs at Caudata.org Newt and Salamander Portal

"and Tylenol - For me... haha "

[Lixra]

Actually, I just registered there this morning! I'm waiting for the authorization to go through.

I'm a big newt/salamander fan also, and used to keep a Fire Salamander when we lived in the states, so I thought why not

[missginger2177]

A question about administering the Panacur, if I may?

Do you simply dust the feeders with it or is there another method recommended? Also, how often? (I ask because I have several places where one can buy Panacur without visiting a vet and it's generally much cheaper, but I don't want to unknowingly under/over dose my frogs.)

Thanks

[flybyferns]

A question about administering the Panacur, if I may?

Do you simply dust the feeders with it or is there another method recommended? Also, how often? (I ask because I have several places where one can buy Panacur without visiting a vet and it's generally much cheaper, but I don't want to unknowingly under/over dose my frogs.)

Thanks

Hi miss ginger,
Of course you may.
It's very tempting to do this. I understand that this can get very expensive.

Panacur-C is available ( ? 2 and 4 mg packets)
I have NO idea what Dr. Frye prescribes . Yes, you are right--- it could be very dangerous to under-treat!
There are several different parasitic infections a frog could have, as well. Especially if wild caught.

We read that panacur is safe? However, Panacur should not be used unless the frog has parasites.
To detect parasites the stool needs to be , microscopically, studied.
1- to detect the parasite
2- to determine which parasite it is
3- once determined - the proper dose and length of treatment can be prescribed, sometimes w/ an additional medication

My intention in creating this thread is to encouraged those of us who have frogs to be prepared.
Part of the preparation is to have have these medicines on hand.
Then, Dr Frye is just and email away!

Personally, my solution for fecal tests has been: I found a local vet that will do a fecal w/out my hauling in 9 tree frogs !
I have 4 in one tank and 5 in another. If one has signs and symptoms of could be a parasitic infection--I bring that frog's fecal.
Typically the hole tank is treated. I have brought in a what I thought was an infected fecal which turned out to be negative- twice ! Turned out the frog needed 14 days of metronidizole. So, If I had given the frog Panacur , what might have happened?

So, what I am saying is. I understand these medications very well. This is the reason, I would never take the liberty to suggest a dose of a prescription medication for a member's frog ( being left with the responsibility of the outcome- I would feel terrible if something happened !) I respect the fact that I am not a vet. Post #1 has a review of what you get from Dr Frye based on the kind of frog you keep. Once the investment is made, he is really happy to help ! This is not a wast of money in any way shape or form. We WILL ALL likely need it at some point. Our frogs sit in an enclosed, human monitored, human maintained, environment with lots of potential 'bugs' we are responsible for trying to avoid. Even with the very best intended care, sometimes things are unavoidable.

Sincerely, Lynn