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    he's catching them..but then spits em out! still only 1 so far..poor guys trying realllllllly hard

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    two down!!

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    Just to be sure..I have the zoo-med repti calcium with D3..that brand is ok right?

    was wondering if it had anything to do with why he is spitting them out lol

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    WHOOOHOOOOO! Awesome to hear he's hunting and eating. If the feeders have a heavy dusting on them Shadrack will spit them out also. I've found that he'll eat much more if they are lighty dusted. But TWO is a great start. You've been up all night watching him, haven't you.
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    YAY!!!!! Congratulations!

    I was thinking the same thing...you've been up all night, I can see.

    Keep up the good work. Continue to dust his crickets with calcium for a few days in a row before switching to every other day. Feed him every day. Try the reptivite on his crickets in about 2 days. His coordination will improve as he gets the calcium and vitamins and he starts to get his energy back. The protein in his food will beef him back up slowly (put muscle and weight back on him). Remove any uneaten crickets every morning.

    Great job!!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Heatheranne View Post
    YAY!!!!! Congratulations!

    I was thinking the same thing...you've been up all night, I can see.

    Keep up the good work. Continue to dust his crickets with calcium for a few days in a row before switching to every other day. Feed him every day. Try the reptivite on his crickets in about 2 days. His coordination will improve as he gets the calcium and vitamins and he starts to get his energy back. The protein in his food will beef him back up slowly (put muscle and weight back on him). Remove any uneaten crickets every morning.

    Great job!!!!
    haha guilty! I couldnt help myself but to sit there for hours chasing the crickets toward him so he can try and try..I got so excited when he first started and then I realized he was having a real hard time. Then I really got excited when he caught one but I didnt see the usual "swallow". I then watched as if he said "haha just kidding" and took the darn thing right out of his mouth. All my excitement drained and I was like "UGH WHY CANT YOU EVER MAKE THIS EASY ON ME". Then finally after 3 fake outs he finally put one in and swallowed..then some more fake outs and then another one swallowed lol. We tried for more and he was going after more and caught a 3rd about 5 times but he just spat it back at me. By this point hed prolly caught every cricket so there wasnt much left as far as calcium since it all came off in his mouth which I assume is fine. I gave up at that point and let him try by himself for the night while I went to sleep.

    As far as reptivite thats different from regular calcium right? I always used calcium with the d3 but never reptivite..Ill pick it up though if he needs it and it will help him. Is there a specific brand I should buy?

    Oh and is this zoo-med repti calcium with d3 okay? I saw somewhere that there was a "better" brand. Or does it not really matter which brand you use?

    Thanks everyone! sooo much!! I hope its only going to get easier from here on out lol..

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    Quote Originally Posted by xXxHeavenxXx View Post
    haha guilty! I couldnt help myself but to sit there for hours chasing the crickets toward him so he can try and try..I got so excited when he first started and then I realized he was having a real hard time. Then I really got excited when he caught one but I didnt see the usual "swallow". I then watched as if he said "haha just kidding" and took the darn thing right out of his mouth. All my excitement drained and I was like "UGH WHY CANT YOU EVER MAKE THIS EASY ON ME". Then finally after 3 fake outs he finally put one in and swallowed..then some more fake outs and then another one swallowed lol. We tried for more and he was going after more and caught a 3rd about 5 times but he just spat it back at me. By this point hed prolly caught every cricket so there wasnt much left as far as calcium since it all came off in his mouth which I assume is fine. I gave up at that point and let him try by himself for the night while I went to sleep.

    As far as reptivite thats different from regular calcium right? I always used calcium with the d3 but never reptivite..Ill pick it up though if he needs it and it will help him. Is there a specific brand I should buy?

    Oh and is this zoo-med repti calcium with d3 okay? I saw somewhere that there was a "better" brand. Or does it not really matter which brand you use?

    Thanks everyone! sooo much!! I hope its only going to get easier from here on out lol..
    It sure takes a lot of patience. This is a good start. He may have good days and bad. At least he's hungry and has some energy to chase them. Are his movements smooth? How are his back legs?

    I have never used the zoo med calcium, but so long as it had the vitamin D 3, it should be okay.

    Reptivite is a powdered multivitamin for them. It has other nutrients and some trace minerals they need. They only need it one day a week, lightly dusted on one cricket, since he is small.

    You're welcome . It's not easy caring for them when they become sick. You're doing a good job!
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    Hi everyone.

    He didnt wanna eat for us yesterday. We are going to try again tonight. I had a question..Should we still do pedialyte soaks if he is eating for us? or say like yesterday he didnt eat..should we do one then?

    Thanks!

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    Has he pooped at all in the past few days?

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    Quote Originally Posted by xXxHeavenxXx View Post
    Hi everyone.

    He didnt wanna eat for us yesterday. We are going to try again tonight. I had a question..Should we still do pedialyte soaks if he is eating for us? or say like yesterday he didnt eat..should we do one then?

    Thanks!
    Hi Lisa
    If he is soaking on his own.... in his dish ( de-chloranted water) and eating you can hold off.
    Less handling and fussing with him will help also
    Keep an eye on him, of course. Give it another night or two?
    Cover three sides of his tank - and keep things nice and quiet
    I'm glad to hear he is pulling through this !

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    Quote Originally Posted by flybyferns View Post
    Hi Lisa
    If he is soaking on his own.... in his dish ( de-chloranted water) and eating you can hold off.
    Less handling and fussing with him will help also
    Keep an eye on him, of course. Give it another night or two?
    Cover three sides of his tank - and keep things nice and quiet
    I'm glad to hear he is pulling through this !

    Lynn

    I am quite sure he is not soaking. We have never caught him doing so when we check on him throughout the day and night.

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    oh and no poop yet..still waiting on that.

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    2 more crickets eaten today after another pedialyte soak!! =) yay!

    seems like that gives him the energy..may be a coincidence, but last two nights I gave him a regular soak and he wouldnt eat. Today pedialyte and then he starts attacking.

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    Yay!!!
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    Glad to see that things seem to be getting better and better. Your doing a good job, keep it up!

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    so for the first time since my frog has been sick this morning..my frog actually took it upon himself to take a dip in his water-dish!! yayy!! I was sooo surprised to see him sittting in there with the water!!

    still no poop...he first ate Sunday..then ate for us again on Wednesday..should I be concerned about poop yet? or is it going to take a bit to get back to normal?

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    Quote Originally Posted by xXxHeavenxXx View Post
    so for the first time since my frog has been sick this morning..my frog actually took it upon himself to take a dip in his water-dish!! yayy!! I was sooo surprised to see him sittting in there with the water!!

    still no poop...he first ate Sunday..then ate for us again on Wednesday..should I be concerned about poop yet? or is it going to take a bit to get back to normal?

    Super! He'll poop !
    Did you ever think you could get this excited about frog poop !

    Hopefully we will get a formal announcement as to when this major event ,finally, takes place.

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    I remember it taking a while after my frog was ill and anorexic, for his system to get moving, and for him to go once he began eating again. I wish I could be more specific about how long it took, but I don't recall exactly. I do know I was anxiously waiting as you are, and very glad when he did. It was definitly several days, I want to say even close to a week.

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    two more crickets gone today =)

    Its two weeks to the day now..He is moving around and seems worlds better..I still see signs of the infection though and thats a little scary. He still does the clicking when hes walking on my hands or chasing the crickets. I also catch him sometimes with his mouth slightly open. Not open where you can see into his mouth..but just slightly open where you can see the pink of the inside of his mouth. Not nearly as open as when we first took him. and not all the time..just on a very slight occasion. Could there still be something wrong?

    Since he hadnt ate in a long time I did not get a poop sample to the vet when we took him. once he does go..should I get that looked at to make sure nothing else is wrong?

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    I would continue to feed him daily until he is completely recovered.
    So, glad to hear he is better !

    Review:
    -the clicking - I agree - it could have very well have been a defense mechanism
    -the sagging mouth could very well be a calcium deficiency, of which takes time to correct

    Keep dusting ! You have done a really great job! You have saved him !

    You have been through a lot with him. I would do a fecal, the last thing you want is some 'opportunistic' parasite in his belly.
    When they are stressed the likelihood of a parasitic infection is greater.

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