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    Quote Originally Posted by Heatheranne View Post
    I think he may be clicking as a defense. The spots take about 2 to 6 weeks to go away.
    really? Our spots are all gone. its just the clicking I am upset about..so that may be nothing at all?

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    Good idea. Get some nice small ones. I am at work today 07:00 til about 20:00 (8pm). It is 05:00 here now. I have to get ready for work. I'll check back tonight. Good luck! I'm crossing my fingers for you!
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    Hi Lisa,
    How are things going this morning ?

    There are instructions here for force feeding:
    http://www.frogforum.net/tree-frogs/...-supplies.html

    Let us know ! Sorry, this little guy is giving you such a tough time. Her has perseverance

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    Go out and buy some Fluker's Repta Boost. You can feed him this supplement for malnourished insectavore/carnavores. It comes with a syringe and instuctions for dosing. It may be easier for you to give to him if you are having trouble keeping his mouth open. You can mix some Calcium D3 powder in with the dose for your frog.

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    Hi is anyone on right now?

    Need help! Hes actually attacking the crickets by himself he caught one...but hes not swallowing it! Its in his mouth as he is going after more crickets?? Any idea why he wont swallow the crickets??

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    Hi is anyone on right now?

    Need help! Hes actually attacking the crickets by himself he caught one...but hes not swallowing it! Its in his mouth as he is going after more crickets?? Any idea why he wont swallow the crickets??
    ITS DOWN!!!
    HE DID IT!!! ALL BY HIMSELF!!!! YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!! I'm so happy I'm crying! lol I had everything all ready to go and I told my boyfriend powder em up and give him a chance so we dumped a BUNCH in. We got about 10 this time. And he started lunging toward them and its like his tounge isnt sticky anymore. They kept getting away so we took some back legs off and BAM! He caught one! He didnt swallow it right away..and started attacking other crickets and we were afraid it was going to fall out of his mouth like we watched a couple of times. Then he finally did his froggy stretches and got it down!! Hes still hunting. one was definitely not enough but he keeps missing. Moving around the tank like a champ tho! Hopping, walking toward em..ugh I am so happy!!

    Ive never seen him miss sooo much..I hope it will come back to him as he gets more! He definitely wants more!

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    YAY!!!!! Congratulations!

    I was thinking the same thing...you've been up all night, I can see.

    Keep up the good work. Continue to dust his crickets with calcium for a few days in a row before switching to every other day. Feed him every day. Try the reptivite on his crickets in about 2 days. His coordination will improve as he gets the calcium and vitamins and he starts to get his energy back. The protein in his food will beef him back up slowly (put muscle and weight back on him). Remove any uneaten crickets every morning.

    Great job!!!!
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    YAY!!!!! Congratulations!

    I was thinking the same thing...you've been up all night, I can see.

    Keep up the good work. Continue to dust his crickets with calcium for a few days in a row before switching to every other day. Feed him every day. Try the reptivite on his crickets in about 2 days. His coordination will improve as he gets the calcium and vitamins and he starts to get his energy back. The protein in his food will beef him back up slowly (put muscle and weight back on him). Remove any uneaten crickets every morning.

    Great job!!!!
    haha guilty! I couldnt help myself but to sit there for hours chasing the crickets toward him so he can try and try..I got so excited when he first started and then I realized he was having a real hard time. Then I really got excited when he caught one but I didnt see the usual "swallow". I then watched as if he said "haha just kidding" and took the darn thing right out of his mouth. All my excitement drained and I was like "UGH WHY CANT YOU EVER MAKE THIS EASY ON ME". Then finally after 3 fake outs he finally put one in and swallowed..then some more fake outs and then another one swallowed lol. We tried for more and he was going after more and caught a 3rd about 5 times but he just spat it back at me. By this point hed prolly caught every cricket so there wasnt much left as far as calcium since it all came off in his mouth which I assume is fine. I gave up at that point and let him try by himself for the night while I went to sleep.

    As far as reptivite thats different from regular calcium right? I always used calcium with the d3 but never reptivite..Ill pick it up though if he needs it and it will help him. Is there a specific brand I should buy?

    Oh and is this zoo-med repti calcium with d3 okay? I saw somewhere that there was a "better" brand. Or does it not really matter which brand you use?

    Thanks everyone! sooo much!! I hope its only going to get easier from here on out lol..

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    Quote Originally Posted by xXxHeavenxXx View Post
    haha guilty! I couldnt help myself but to sit there for hours chasing the crickets toward him so he can try and try..I got so excited when he first started and then I realized he was having a real hard time. Then I really got excited when he caught one but I didnt see the usual "swallow". I then watched as if he said "haha just kidding" and took the darn thing right out of his mouth. All my excitement drained and I was like "UGH WHY CANT YOU EVER MAKE THIS EASY ON ME". Then finally after 3 fake outs he finally put one in and swallowed..then some more fake outs and then another one swallowed lol. We tried for more and he was going after more and caught a 3rd about 5 times but he just spat it back at me. By this point hed prolly caught every cricket so there wasnt much left as far as calcium since it all came off in his mouth which I assume is fine. I gave up at that point and let him try by himself for the night while I went to sleep.

    As far as reptivite thats different from regular calcium right? I always used calcium with the d3 but never reptivite..Ill pick it up though if he needs it and it will help him. Is there a specific brand I should buy?

    Oh and is this zoo-med repti calcium with d3 okay? I saw somewhere that there was a "better" brand. Or does it not really matter which brand you use?

    Thanks everyone! sooo much!! I hope its only going to get easier from here on out lol..
    It sure takes a lot of patience. This is a good start. He may have good days and bad. At least he's hungry and has some energy to chase them. Are his movements smooth? How are his back legs?

    I have never used the zoo med calcium, but so long as it had the vitamin D 3, it should be okay.

    Reptivite is a powdered multivitamin for them. It has other nutrients and some trace minerals they need. They only need it one day a week, lightly dusted on one cricket, since he is small.

    You're welcome . It's not easy caring for them when they become sick. You're doing a good job!
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    Hi everyone.

    He didnt wanna eat for us yesterday. We are going to try again tonight. I had a question..Should we still do pedialyte soaks if he is eating for us? or say like yesterday he didnt eat..should we do one then?

    Thanks!

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    Has he pooped at all in the past few days?

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    Quote Originally Posted by xXxHeavenxXx View Post
    Hi everyone.

    He didnt wanna eat for us yesterday. We are going to try again tonight. I had a question..Should we still do pedialyte soaks if he is eating for us? or say like yesterday he didnt eat..should we do one then?

    Thanks!
    Hi Lisa
    If he is soaking on his own.... in his dish ( de-chloranted water) and eating you can hold off.
    Less handling and fussing with him will help also
    Keep an eye on him, of course. Give it another night or two?
    Cover three sides of his tank - and keep things nice and quiet
    I'm glad to hear he is pulling through this !

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    Quote Originally Posted by flybyferns View Post
    Hi Lisa
    If he is soaking on his own.... in his dish ( de-chloranted water) and eating you can hold off.
    Less handling and fussing with him will help also
    Keep an eye on him, of course. Give it another night or two?
    Cover three sides of his tank - and keep things nice and quiet
    I'm glad to hear he is pulling through this !

    Lynn

    I am quite sure he is not soaking. We have never caught him doing so when we check on him throughout the day and night.

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    oh and no poop yet..still waiting on that.

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    Yay!!!
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    Glad to see that things seem to be getting better and better. Your doing a good job, keep it up!

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    so for the first time since my frog has been sick this morning..my frog actually took it upon himself to take a dip in his water-dish!! yayy!! I was sooo surprised to see him sittting in there with the water!!

    still no poop...he first ate Sunday..then ate for us again on Wednesday..should I be concerned about poop yet? or is it going to take a bit to get back to normal?

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    Quote Originally Posted by xXxHeavenxXx View Post
    so for the first time since my frog has been sick this morning..my frog actually took it upon himself to take a dip in his water-dish!! yayy!! I was sooo surprised to see him sittting in there with the water!!

    still no poop...he first ate Sunday..then ate for us again on Wednesday..should I be concerned about poop yet? or is it going to take a bit to get back to normal?

    Super! He'll poop !
    Did you ever think you could get this excited about frog poop !

    Hopefully we will get a formal announcement as to when this major event ,finally, takes place.

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    I remember it taking a while after my frog was ill and anorexic, for his system to get moving, and for him to go once he began eating again. I wish I could be more specific about how long it took, but I don't recall exactly. I do know I was anxiously waiting as you are, and very glad when he did. It was definitly several days, I want to say even close to a week.

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    Great job! Keep up the good work. It sounds like he is on the mend .
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