New Miniature Tree Frog??

[Honest John]

Hi XxExoticPsychExX, no I have not really noticed this sound out on my patio, and I do get a very loud Urt-RR sound. But I was not looking for this high pitch sound that's on the YT video. - I do get sounds like this thinking it's the birds? - I just must be sure it comes from these very tiny frogs.

I will have to pay close attention now that I heard the call.

Plus the frog in the video looks a lot bigger than mine? My pics of the one on the tape measure shows it's 5/8's of a inch, and there are none bigger than this. - I must have a toad making the very loud Urt-RR sound I hear on the patio, and I have seen toads out there before.


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John Mason

[AMKReptiles]

I am Puerto Rican.. This little guy are HARD to find and are LOUD... I use to catch them when I was kid behing my house at night in side little plant that hold water in between the leafs...may be you could record the sound and post it..

[Honest John]

Hi Julio, the type of plant is a Bromeliad. They are mosquito breeding plants, that I call them because they hold water. That water does get stinky, and it's not pleasant to get accidentally spilled on you!.. I used to have one in a pot on the patio, but I moved it to the back yard sometime last year. I have more of them in the back yard I bet have more of these Awesome little frogs.

It's early AM now, and all I hear is the loud croker, Urt-RR.. - From the video coqui rincon puerto rico singing - YouTube that XxExoticPsychExX posted, I now know what to listen for. It's a high pitch sound, and not what I been hearing at night. - In this video, I think the guy filming it, is also mimicking the call?

I had a hard time at first thinking these little guys made such a loud low pitch sound I been hearing, after learning they're loud. - A higher pitch would be more possible. It sounds like a bird, something I was NOT expecting? Birds do not sing at night around here, so I will pay more attention from now on. - Plus the frog in the video looks bigger then mine? Hard to tell.?. It's in a bromeliad plant for sure!

I would think these little guy's would want to be quiet, so they do not get eaten by a bigger frog's,snake's, or lizard's? lol -

Up north from here in South Miami, in Central Florida, the brown Cuban tree frog is very common, and easy to find because there's not many bigger lizards like the Cuban lizard, Skink's, Iguana's, Gecko's and Snake's that I have in the yard. -

I once seen this good size lizard, 8 - 10 inches, that runs on it's back legs, I forgot the name, but it was a non-native! -
I think this slowed down the invasion of the regular Green Cuban tree frogs around here, because they can get eaten easily. They're very rare around here, and hard to find anymore! - There must be pockets here, and there of them, because you can still find one.

The green Cuban Tree Frogs can change color chameleon like, but I never noticed this with the brown ones. Maybe they drop a shade or two, but the greens can go completely brown!

I hunt in Central FL, and there's a lot of brown Cuban tree frogs. They were all over! - When I got home, they were coming off of my car in the driveway!

I hope the wind dies down today so I can get more pictures. I think I spooked a pregnant female that jumped while I was trying to take a picture? She was very chubby, maybe from food,?, but no bigger in length!

I have to pot up some bromeliads, and set them in the screened in patio. I have 2 small doggy doors, and a tear in the screen, here, & there that invites the wild life in that I enjoy very much! - No mosquitoes!

Biological information: The golden coqui lives in bromeliads growing on trees, rocks and earth. Not much is known about their eating habits, but has been observed feeding on insects. Coquís no tadpole stage, but when frogs emerge from the eggs, are small replicas of adults. The gold is the only coquifrog species in the New World that is ovoviviparous, that is, to stop the live young. In this case the eggs develop inside the female's oviduct until then already formed froglets emerge from the genital opening (cloaca).

[Honest John]

Dr J from the UF has been kind enough to reply to my questions of what kind of frog do I have.

WE can disagree to agree. Here is a copy of his last email with a picture of a frog he studied.
Their growth depends on how much they get to eat?.

Put out some PVC pipes and you will find that you have lots of Cuban Treefrogs around—small ones and larger ones.

And if you have Coquis you should hear their distinctive calls sometime. Listen for them and if you do happen to hear such a call please record and send me the file. Coquis used to be in Florida near Homestead but there are no confirmed records for 20 or so years. So, if by some chance you do have Coquis, in addition to Cuban Treefrogs, that would be something I would really like to know about.

And by the way, there are numerous “species” of what are commonly called coqui in PR. But the ‘real’ species, and the one to which I am referring is Eleutherodactylus coqui—see attached image of one I took in PR several years ago.

Dr. J
Dr J's Pic;


It's so obvious that Dr J's frog has a white stripe thur it's eye, and mine are brown. Of course this can be for many reasons. Without any guide of size, his looks bigger also? - I put my frogs on a tape measure where it's very easy to see the size, and believe me, they have not grown since!

I just want someone to take these guys that is set up for keeping them alive, and I get get some-kind of reward from this discovery, and their yours. - I would never ask if I was not totally broke, after losing a business, home, and my wife losing her job of 32 years at John Deere. - If I can gain anything I would collect every frog and send it on for study, and make sure we do not lose this precious animal! .

I cant really keep them for much longer, and soon they'll will be killed. - I really hate living in a society where nature don't mean a damn thing anymore!

[Honest John]

This is Ziggy. He lived with us for almost 2 years. He was much bigger when he escaped, then the neighbor kid found him, and sold him.
He ate a well balanced diet with supplements! He had the freedom to come & go thru the doggies doors.

When it got cold, I thought he would never leave the inside of the home, and he stayed above the TV fpr months!. I had to pick him up to get outside when it got warm, but he would come back when it got cold thru the doggies doors.

I also had a African tortoise that ex-capped, and the foreign people living next door with a full fenced in yard, ate him! - His name was dog. - This is why I'm so careful about where these little frogs go!

[Honest John]

Please- someone show me the life cycle of a Cuban Tree Frog!