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    Question Is latex paint safe to use for my situation?

    I just bought some Rust-Oleum latex paint to use on my frog tank.
    This is the exact product:
    Rust-Oleum Painter's Touch Multi-Purpose Flat Black at Menards
    MSDS links are available on that page

    I want to know if I can use this product on the exterior glass area of the tank while the frogs are in there? I will have a fan blowing on it at all times until dry to move the fumes away from tank.

    If this isn't safe to do I can move them to another tank but don't want to add that stress if not needed.

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    Default Re: Is latex paint safe to use for my situation?

    You do not want to use latex with your frog in there. It is good that you even know what a MSDS is though, kudos to you on that.

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    Should i completely remove them from the room? I also have my 55gallon roach tank in the same room as well which I can't remove, I know I should have thought about this before setting up the tank but completely spaced it.

    This takes only 2-4 hours to completely dry will it be safe after that time period or longer?

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    I also use as much caution as possible when it comes to these things, that being said though, I have never tried to paint anything near any pets. I am in the environmental industry (Hazmat) and do air/water testing, we also go to great lengths and overboard in some situations when it comes to dealing with anything hazardous. Why not just remove the tank from the room?

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    Main reason being that its large, full of heavy rocks, large water area also full. I don't want to risk breaking the glass as I don't have a spare to replace it. I can move the frogs out of the room since I have a temp 10gal already setup when the time comes to ever move them.

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    I would go that route then. It doesn't say on the link, is the paint 100% latex? Also looking through the msds, it says

    Odor: Ammonia Like

    So when letting it dry, I would wait until there is no scent whatsoever.

    I don't know if you read this part: Engineering Controls: Prevent build-up of vapors by opening all doors and windows to achieve cross -ventilation. Use process enclosures, local exhaust ventilation, or other engineering controls to control airborne levels below

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    Well actually you already have your engineering controls in place with your fan, but i'm not sure how it would affect your feeders. Bill would be a good guy to have chime in... can someone call him..Bill..Biiillll!? Can you step away from the vivarium forum for a sec and come over here?

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    Just out of curiosity, do you have pics up of your setup on here? I wan't to check it out.

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    Latex paint would be bad. When using rubber gloves to handle your frogs you must use non-latex gloves so latex paint is a no.

    Edit; I just saw where you said exterior. Sorry. Well there will be fumes since most paints contain styrene which is quite toxic. It aid in the drying process as it evaporates. You would be better off to keep the frog in another tank until the paint drys. You will need to keep them in another room away from the drying paint. Frogs are extremely sensitive and it doesn't take much to cause death.


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    So what paint do I need to get to paint the outside glass?

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    I'm pretty sure acrylic is what you need. Any thoughts on the feeders Grif(s) ?

    edit: -latex

    on another board I see "Krylon Fusion" recommended a few times.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cyris69 View Post
    So what paint do I need to get to paint the outside glass?
    I am not sure. I've never painted a Viv, but I work with a lot of chemicals. See what Bill has to say. Send him a PM.


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    Quote Originally Posted by SCF View Post
    I'm pretty sure acrylic is what you need. Any thoughts on the feeders Grif(s) ?

    edit: -latex
    You mean whether the latex could kill the feeders? Fumes will kill the feeders.


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    I edited my edit.

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    Isn't acrylic chemical based vs water based for latex? I also read latex paints actually contain no latex and do not emit toxic fumes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cyris69 View Post
    Isn't acrylic chemical based vs water based for latex? I also read latex paints actually contain no latex and do not emit toxic fumes.
    All of it contains chemicals. I think the code 4 page did bring Bill though.

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    latex on the outside will work just fine, provided the work is done safely. i silicone in the same room (basement) that i keep all my animals in. i just ventilate well. i actually still had odor left over in my hisser tank when i added them, and they are fine. patience is not my virtue. ventilation is key.

    i assume you are blacking out the tank? i used to paint my tanks, both aquariums and viv, but now i use black contact paper. 1 roll for $6 did my 75, my 60, a 55 and a 15. and, it's removable and can be used on another tank. best bang for the buck IMHO and you don't need to worry about any of your animals.

    as far as latex and frogs, i get conflicting stuff on this. some forums say latex gloves are safe to handle frogs with, and others say no. i am quite positive Grif could shed some light on this one. but on the outside of the tank, it is 100% safe.
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    Default Re: Is latex paint safe to use for my situation?

    Now that Bill is here I'll let him handle it.


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    Ok, so safe for exterior so long as there are no inhabitants during drying/aeration. I can remove the babies from that room until dry/no fumes.

    I do not want to kill my dubia as I have a large colony. So, I guess my only option now is to disassemble the tank and paint elsewhere? Do I also need to remove/replace the substrate?

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    is it's only going to be a few hours, why not cover the top of the roach tank with plastic wrap. it will keep any fumes out of it.
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    0.0.10 Phyllobates Vittatus
    0.0.3 Phyllobates Terribilis 'Mint'
    0.0.3 Dendrobates Tinctorius 'Patricia'
    0.0.5 Dendrobates Leucomelas
    0.0.2 Dendrobates Tinctorius 'Powder Blue'
    0.0.2 Ranitomeya Variabilis 'southern'
    0.0.3 Epipedobates Anthonyi 'zarayunga'
    1.2.0 Phyllobates bicolor
    0.0.3 Dendrobates tinctorius 'azureus'
    0.0.1 Avicularia Avicularia
    0.0.1 Gramastola porteri
    0.2.0 Canines
    1.0.0 Tabby/Maine Coon Mix
    2.1.0 Genetics Experiments
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