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    Default Re: Is latex paint safe to use for my situation?

    Latex paint would be bad. When using rubber gloves to handle your frogs you must use non-latex gloves so latex paint is a no.

    Edit; I just saw where you said exterior. Sorry. Well there will be fumes since most paints contain styrene which is quite toxic. It aid in the drying process as it evaporates. You would be better off to keep the frog in another tank until the paint drys. You will need to keep them in another room away from the drying paint. Frogs are extremely sensitive and it doesn't take much to cause death.


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    So what paint do I need to get to paint the outside glass?

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    I'm pretty sure acrylic is what you need. Any thoughts on the feeders Grif(s) ?

    edit: -latex

    on another board I see "Krylon Fusion" recommended a few times.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SCF View Post
    I'm pretty sure acrylic is what you need. Any thoughts on the feeders Grif(s) ?

    edit: -latex
    You mean whether the latex could kill the feeders? Fumes will kill the feeders.


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    I edited my edit.

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    latex on the outside will work just fine, provided the work is done safely. i silicone in the same room (basement) that i keep all my animals in. i just ventilate well. i actually still had odor left over in my hisser tank when i added them, and they are fine. patience is not my virtue. ventilation is key.

    i assume you are blacking out the tank? i used to paint my tanks, both aquariums and viv, but now i use black contact paper. 1 roll for $6 did my 75, my 60, a 55 and a 15. and, it's removable and can be used on another tank. best bang for the buck IMHO and you don't need to worry about any of your animals.

    as far as latex and frogs, i get conflicting stuff on this. some forums say latex gloves are safe to handle frogs with, and others say no. i am quite positive Grif could shed some light on this one. but on the outside of the tank, it is 100% safe.
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    Quote Originally Posted by deranged chipmunk View Post
    latex on the outside will work just fine, provided the work is done safely. i silicone in the same room (basement) that i keep all my animals in. i just ventilate well. i actually still had odor left over in my hisser tank when i added them, and they are fine. patience is not my virtue. ventilation is key.

    i assume you are blacking out the tank? i used to paint my tanks, both aquariums and viv, but now i use black contact paper. 1 roll for $6 did my 75, my 60, a 55 and a 15. and, it's removable and can be used on another tank. best bang for the buck IMHO and you don't need to worry about any of your animals.

    as far as latex and frogs, i get conflicting stuff on this. some forums say latex gloves are safe to handle frogs with, and others say no. i am quite positive Grif could shed some light on this one. but on the outside of the tank, it is 100% safe.
    There is a lot of conflicting information on the proper gloves to use. I never take chances. Latex can severly irritate our skin and since theirs is much more sensitive than ours I don't feel their safe. I believe Neoprene is fine.

    I'm not an expert on the whole rubber gloves usage since I myself prefer to use my bare hands cleaned, dried, and remoistened with dechlorinated water. Anyone who has recommended rubber gloves has recommened non-latex.


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    Quote Originally Posted by GrifTheGreat View Post
    There is a lot of conflicting information on the proper gloves to use. I never take chances. Latex can severly irritate our skin and since theirs is much more sensitive than ours I don't feel their safe. I believe Neoprene is fine.

    I'm not an expert on the whole rubber gloves usage since I myself prefer to use my bare hands cleaned, dried, and remoistened with dechlorinated water. Anyone who has recommended rubber gloves has recommened non-latex.
    thanks Grif, i wasn't sure. i use the clean moistened hand method myself and go by the rule of "if unsure, just don't do it"
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    Isn't acrylic chemical based vs water based for latex? I also read latex paints actually contain no latex and do not emit toxic fumes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cyris69 View Post
    Isn't acrylic chemical based vs water based for latex? I also read latex paints actually contain no latex and do not emit toxic fumes.
    All of it contains chemicals. I think the code 4 page did bring Bill though.

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    Now that Bill is here I'll let him handle it.


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    Ok, so safe for exterior so long as there are no inhabitants during drying/aeration. I can remove the babies from that room until dry/no fumes.

    I do not want to kill my dubia as I have a large colony. So, I guess my only option now is to disassemble the tank and paint elsewhere? Do I also need to remove/replace the substrate?

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    is it's only going to be a few hours, why not cover the top of the roach tank with plastic wrap. it will keep any fumes out of it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cyris69 View Post
    So what paint do I need to get to paint the outside glass?
    I am not sure. I've never painted a Viv, but I work with a lot of chemicals. See what Bill has to say. Send him a PM.


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