I need help with an ID asap, please!

[mernerm]

A friend of my boyfriend's received flowers and found a tree frog in it. He's feeding it chicken and bread which makes me want to cry. My boyfriend is picking it up tomorrow and adopting it. Needless to say, he is also getting some basic tree frog supplies (tank/insects/stuff to climb on/distilled water/etc.). I'd really like to know what it is to see if it has any specific needs.

When this guy told us he found a tree frog, I thought it was going to be something native to where I live (Iowa), most likely a Grey tree frog. The picture I was sent does not look like this type of frog; the body shape is wrong and the markings are too distinct (I do realize there's a lot of variation in Greys but this would be a crazy weird looking Grey tree frog).

The picture is not very amazing in its quality and I also couldn't get information on where the flowers originated. Hopefully I'll have better pictures tomorrow.

Thanks in advance!

[poison]

Its very hard to tell from the pic can you get a better one?

[mernerm]

I'm going to try to get him to send me some better pictures tomorrow.

[poison]

And no its not a grey tree frog

[UncleChester]

How large is it? An approximate length from tip of the nose to the rear end could possibly help.

From what I could find, Columbia is supposed to be a big supplier of cut-flowers to the States. I know you had tried already, but finding a definite location for the source of the flowers would be a big help. In case Columbia happens to be correct, here's the absurdly long list of amphibians of Columbia (which is fun to browse in any case) http://amphibiaweb.org/cgi-bin/amphi...isocc=Colombia

And here's the AmphibiaWeb search page that lets you sort by country AmphibiaWeb Database Search

[mernerm]

How large is it? An approximate length from tip of the nose to the rear end could possibly help.

From what I could find, Columbia is supposed to be a big supplier of cut-flowers to the States. I know you had tried already, but finding a definite location for the source of the flowers would be a big help. In case Columbia happens to be correct, here's the absurdly long list of amphibians of Columbia (which is fun to browse in any case) http://amphibiaweb.org/cgi-bin/amphi...isocc=Colombia

And here's the AmphibiaWeb search page that lets you sort by country AmphibiaWeb Database Search

Oh my goodness! That is quite the list! My boyfriend is picking up the frog tonight and I'm going to have him take some good pictures and give me a size estimate! Someone PMed me last night and suggested a Cuban tree frog; if those brown spots are dirt and not actually spots, then that actually might fit. Especially since it seems to be willing to eat just about anything. I'm very excited to get some updated pictures! If it turns out that isn't it, I'll have to start going through the database you've given me--I will be learning a lot about Colombian frogs, hehe!

[UncleChester]

Florida is a common source for housplants, there are likely cut-flower suppliers there as well. Florida is also filled with cuban treefrogs that seem intent on escaping in shipments to the rest of the country.. There are many pages with good descriptions of them, but also check to see if the skin on the top of the head is fused with the skull (a trait of cubans)

By the way- it's very good of you to take this wayward frog in

[mernerm]

Here are a couple more pictures (my boyfriend apparently can't take a decent picture to save his life either so really good pictures will have to wait until the weekend.. ha):

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@Brian: Yes, I never thought we would be frog owners, but there wasn't much of an alternative! Over $100 later and we have all of the supplies needed for our little guy to live a good life.

[Murray of the Deep]

Here are a couple more pictures (my boyfriend apparently can't take a decent picture to save his life either so really good pictures will have to wait until the weekend.. ha):

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@Brian: Yes, I never thought we would be frog owners, but there wasn't much of an alternative! Over $100 later and we have all of the supplies needed for our little guy to live a good life.

isnt that a baby amazon milk tree frog?

[UncleChester]

Here are a couple more pictures (my boyfriend apparently can't take a decent picture to save his life either so really good pictures will have to wait until the weekend.. ha):

Those pictures after the frog cleaned up look pretty Cuban. Their colouration and pattern can vary greatly. Here's a link that describes the fused skin to skull test (ignore the part about euthanization) and has a picture of a Cuban that looks almost identical to yours: Florida Wildlife Extension at UF/IFAS

isnt that a baby amazon milk tree frog?

Amazon milk frogs tend to be bluish, and with dark bands.

[purpleturtle89]

It's most defiantly not a milk frog lol milk frogs have a heavy colouring of blue and very distinguished google them you'll see

[FlyingPollock]

Definitely NOT an amazon milk

[mernerm]

Those pictures after the frog cleaned up look pretty Cuban. Their colouration and pattern can vary greatly. Here's a link that describes the fused skin to skull test (ignore the part about euthanization) and has a picture of a Cuban that looks almost identical to yours: Florida Wildlife Extension at UF/IFAS



Amazon milk frogs tend to be bluish, and with dark bands.

Excellent! I will try that test this weekend when I meet him. Wow, I just looked at some pictures of Amazon milk tree frogs; they are beautiful! It makes my little guy look pretty bland in comparison... hehehe.

Thank you for all the help you've given me, Brian.

[Murray of the Deep]

Excellent! I will try that test this weekend when I meet him. Wow, I just looked at some pictures of Amazon milk tree frogs; they are beautiful! It makes my little guy look pretty bland in comparison... hehehe.

Thank you for all the help you've given me, Brian.

hmmm maybe its some kind of albino and half bred?

[UncleChester]

Thank you for all the help you've given me, Brian.

You're welcome!

hmmm maybe its some kind of albino and half bred?

Usually the simpler option is more likely. Since it came out of cut-flowers, a central or south american origin is certainly possible. But if the only way to make it fit a species description, like an amazon milk frog, is to assume it's also a half breed or rare colour morph you should start to doubt this belief, especially in the face of more plausible options.

[deranged chipmunk]

it's a cuban. i get them from time to time from my plant shop. they hitchhike from florida, normally in larger potted plants.

[helm96]

Yeah my plant shop gets a lot of hitchhikers as well. I like how they do it, if you can identify the frog and prove that you have the proper care procedures then they will sell you the plant it is with. They will risk not selling the plant to avoid the frog going to the wrong home.