Sick whites frog please help :(

[helm96]

KK, vitamins are very important as well. Frogs can get a deficiency from lack of vitamins as well. Especially if you have not given it to them since you got them. I hate to say it but many of the pet shops that sell these little guys do not take the proper care steps when housing them and they just feed them without dusting them. So who knows when the last time was that the little guys were properly supplemented.

[flybyferns]

Willow,
Sorry you are still having trouble
How long and how often have you been dusting w/ calcium?

[helm96]

The other thing that I noticed you said that the temp was at 70 and has dropped to 60. I would check and make sure the thermometer is reading correctly. If the temp is infact 60 that is to low for the little guys. You should be around 70 degrees within the enclosure.

[Willow333]

They're fed every couple of days and are dusted every time. I am going to buy some vitamin dust from the pet store later. I think it's too late for this little guy, but I really hope the other will be ok. Fingers crossed for both of them

[flybyferns]

They're fed every couple of days and are dusted every time. I am going to buy some vitamin dust from the pet store later. I think it's too late for this little guy, but I really hope the other will be ok. Fingers crossed for both of them

Willow,
I'm so sorry!
There is no herp vet anywhere ? It's such a shame
He really needs a fecal check and likey and antiviral medication such as metronidazole ( which will also help to boost his appetite)

Give him a soak in some unflavored pedialyte ( or it's UK equivalent) w. a drop of honey/ then a rinse soak.
(found in the baby isle at a market) mix it one part pedialyte and 10 parts distilled water
Therapeutic hydration for child dehydration - Pedialyte

Repashy make a 'rescue' product?
Repashy Ventures - Distributor Center

I have used Flukers 'repi-boost' this works very well
Fluker's Repta+Boost Insectavore & Carnivore High Amp Boost at PETCO

Quarantine him / if you have not already done so

Link to polly SET UP QUARANTINE AND HOSPITAL TANKS FOR YOUR FROGS AND TOADS OFFERED BY Pollywogs World of Frogs

Basic First Aid
http://www.frogforum.net/content/bas...first-aid-142/

Hope this helps
Lynn

[flybyferns]

They're fed every couple of days and are dusted every time. I am going to buy some vitamin dust from the pet store later. I think it's too late for this little guy, but I really hope the other will be ok. Fingers crossed for both of them

Willow,
I'm so sorry!
There is no herp vet anywhere ? It's such a shame
He really needs a fecal check and likey and antiviral medication such as metronidazole ( which will also help to boost his appetite)

Give him a soak in some unflavored pedialyte ( or it's UK equivalent) w. a drop of honey/ then a rinse soak.
(found in the baby isle at a market) mix it one part pedialyte and 10 parts distilled water
Therapeutic hydration for child dehydration - Pedialyte

Repashy make a 'rescue' product?
Repashy Ventures - Distributor Center

I have used Flukers 'repi-boost' this works very well
Fluker's Repta+Boost Insectavore & Carnivore High Amp Boost at PETCO

Quarantine him / if you have not already done so

Link to polly SET UP QUARANTINE AND HOSPITAL TANKS FOR YOUR FROGS AND TOADS OFFERED BY Pollywogs World of Frogs

Basic First Aid
Frog Forum - Basic Frog First Aid

Hope this helps
Lynn

[Lixra]

Willow,
I'm so sorry!
There is no herp vet anywhere ? It's such a shame

The UK is a bit backwards on this I've noticed (I'm originally from the US and had 3 good herp vets near me). The UK currently has more people who own a reptile or amphibian than a dog or cat, but good herp vets (or any for that matter) are few and far between. That's why I suggested trying to find someone who isn't a specialist per se, but is knowledgeable about their care and will see them in their practice (like our vet). I also have friend that lives in Dorset (she and her husband breed corn snakes), she's not a specialist vet, but does the same thing as ours as she has a passion for herps and is knowledgeable about their care.

I hope everything goes okay and your little guy pulls through!

[Willow333]

Yes we are a bit, I have asked my vet but they just shrugged me out, they could not care less here. It really is horrible, the frog keeps fitting and tensing, it sounds cruel but I would rather just somehow put him out of his misery. It's really upsetting me, I can see he is in pain and cannot help at all

[Willow333]

He died this morning I really need help as to what it is, this is the second frog it's happened to and I don't want it to happen again

[Lixra]

Just out of curiosity, could you PM me the name of the breeder you got them from? I had a similar problem earlier in the year with 3 White's that I got from a certain breeder at one of the Doncaster shows. One passed away within 48 hours of having it, the other one the next week, and the third one a few weeks later with similar symptoms to what yours had.

I don't know how long you've had them, so it might not even be relevant, but if you've only had them a short time it very well could be.

So sorry for your loss, I know how hard it is to lose a beloved pet

[Willow333]

They were bought from reptile plus, I won't buy from them again. I don't know how long to wait until I buy the last frog a companion

[flybyferns]

Willow,
I'm so sorry

[helm96]

Willow,
So sorry to hear about your loss. Its amazing how quick these little guys can get near and dear to your heart! Don't let this discourage you from keeping Whites they are some of the funniest tree frogs to own.

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[Willow333]

Unfortunatly frog number 3 is now bloating up also. This is him in the photo, does anyone have any ideas?

[Willow333]

Here's the second one again!
Currently the temperature is around 28 degrees Celsius, humidity is around 66 so I mist only every few days. I got told these conditions were ok so I am just stumped!

[Willow333]

Ok so just an update he died this morning after having what seemed a seizure. I think it is red leg, but I don't know whether to carry on trying with them

[Lixra]

So sorry to hear that Willow

The symptoms seem almost identical to the three White's I got in September who fell ill very quickly and then died. After the last one passed away, I called up my vet to see if I could get a necropsy done to find out what the problem was. As a tiny little White's Tree Frog is deemed "specialist" in that nature, they said it would cost about £200, which I didn't have kicking around unfortunately. I emailed my specialist vet that I used when I lived in the States and was told that although it would be difficult to pinpoint what exactly was wrong without seeing the frogs (which I appreciated), he said it sounded like an Aeromonas ("Red Leg") or Pseudomonas bacterial infection.

You can get bad batches of White's from breeders which sadly, you and I have found out the hard way. However, I don't think you should give up on owning them, if you really have a deep love for these frogs as I do. I know of a few good breeders who attend the UK shows (mainly Doncaster, which has it's first show at the end of June this year). I would be more than happy to help you pick some healthy little frogs out if you attend any of them

The breeder I bought our current White's from is Rainforest Vivs, who are just excellent. They're based in Wales, but attend most of the UK shows. They mainly sell live plants and decor for planted amphibian vivariums, but I can find out if they'll have any frogs for sale.