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    Eric and Stitch
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    I currently have 3 red eyes. Two male one female. And I will be moving them to a very large new home (55gallon) once I complete it. With such a large terrarium my girlfriend wants something that isn't nocturnal. And at her work PETCO they have a pretty Day Gecko. She wants him. I say research it. She searches until one site says maybe and jumps for joy. I'm researching further. And hood suggestions?

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    i wouldn't do it. most day geckos are from the madagascar region. from what i understand, quite a few in the pet trade come from florida. both are sub-tropical regions, while red eyes are from a tropical region, mostly costa rica. they are 2 totally different climates, so their care won't be the same. one would most likely suffer. not to mention the fact that they are diurnal AND arboreal. they will be scooting all around the tank and possibly close to the red eyes. that could really stress them out. why not go for something that is diurnal and terrestrial, if you insist on doing multispecies
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    Thanks Bill, Any suggestions in the diurnal and terrestrial area? with my tank being turned on end there isn't much "land" for terrestrial habitat.

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    Hi Tyler,
    I didn't realize you had a third!
    Your project looks fun.
    As you know, Red Eyed Tree frogs don't need much room on 'the bottom'. They don't even like the bottom
    Have you thought about installing a very shallow water area on the bottom.
    It could be drilled to drain out the back? Filling the shallow water area on the bottom could be accomplished by the misting system and adding additional de-chlor water.
    Bowl feeding would have to be well established and could be suspended for feeding?
    A mixed environment is very difficult. I would seriously consider the best additional herp to be .............other red eyed tree frogs!
    Lynn
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    Dendrobates tinctorius "Green Sipaliwini"
    Dendrobates tinctorius “Powder Blue"
    Dendrobates tinctorius "French Guiana Dwarf Cobalt"

    Phyllobates terribilis “Mint”
    Phyllobates terribilis "Orange"
    Phyllobates bicolor "Uraba"

    Oophaga pumilio "Black Jeans"
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    Oophaga pumilio "Bastimentos"
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    Oophaga “Vicentei” (blue)

    Oophaga sylvatica "Paru"
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    Oophaga histrionica “Redhead”
    Oophaga histrionica "Blue"
    Oophaga lehmanni "Red"
    Oophaga histrionica "Tado"

    Ranitomeya variabilis "Southern"
    Ranitomeya imitator "Varadero"
    Ranitomeya sirensis "Lower Ucayali"
    Ranitomeya vanzolinii

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    Thanks Lynn, I already drilled the bottom to be a complete drain. Didn't want to tear down if a pump failed. And I did the suggested space math and came up with a possible 10-11red eyes that could live in this thing. Bowl feeding is already implemented on my frogies.

    Maybe someone who keeps larger groups of Red eyes can answer this. Do they start to sing more when kept in larger groups. My boys do call occasionally every hour of so. But I wouldn't mind more without the use of a rain chamber.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eric and Stitch View Post
    Thanks Lynn, I already drilled the bottom to be a complete drain. Didn't want to tear down if a pump failed. And I did the suggested space math and came up with a possible 10-11red eyes that could live in this thing. Bowl feeding is already implemented on my frogies.

    Maybe someone who keeps larger groups of Red eyes can answer this. Do they start to sing more when kept in larger groups. My boys do call occasionally every hour of so. But I wouldn't mind more without the use of a rain chamber.

    Hi,
    When my red eyed tree frog enclosure is quite( I have 4) ; It's a heads-up for me.
    The happier they are ---the more they call.
    It's like a built in 'red eyed' alarm.
    I hear hours of calling in the warmer weather when I'm able to leave a fan on for increased ventilation.
    Lynn
    Current Collection
    Dendrobates leucomelas - standard morph
    Dendrobates auratus “Costa Rican Green Black"
    Dendrobates auratus "Pena Blanca"
    Dendrobates tinctorius “New River”
    Dendrobates tinctorius "Green Sipaliwini"
    Dendrobates tinctorius “Powder Blue"
    Dendrobates tinctorius "French Guiana Dwarf Cobalt"

    Phyllobates terribilis “Mint”
    Phyllobates terribilis "Orange"
    Phyllobates bicolor "Uraba"

    Oophaga pumilio "Black Jeans"
    Oophaga pumilio "Isla Popa"
    Oophaga pumilio "Bastimentos"
    Oophaga pumilio “Mimbitimbi”
    Oophaga pumilio "Rio Colubre"
    Oophaga pumilio "Red Frog Beach”
    Oophaga pumilio "Rio Branco"
    Oophaga pumilio “Valle del Rey”
    Oophaga pumilio "BriBri"
    Oophaga pumilio "El Dorado"
    Oophaga pumilio "Cristobal"
    Oophaga pumilio "Rambala"

    Oophaga “Vicentei” (blue)

    Oophaga sylvatica "Paru"
    Oophaga sylvatica "Pata Blanca"
    Oophaga histrionica “Redhead”
    Oophaga histrionica "Blue"
    Oophaga lehmanni "Red"
    Oophaga histrionica "Tado"

    Ranitomeya variabilis "Southern"
    Ranitomeya imitator "Varadero"
    Ranitomeya sirensis "Lower Ucayali"
    Ranitomeya vanzolinii

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    Default Re: What can live with RETF?

    again, Gena won't be deterred from finding some other species to keep with the Red eyes and has at least started looking at better matches. Her hopes are now set on an Albino Red Eye, I told her yes. Black Eyed Tree frog ( I'm not sure) and Glass Frogs (again, not sure)

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    Hi!

    Definitely don't add any lizards to the red eyes. Lizards are fast and will compete for food. They will also scare your red eyes, stressing them out, which may lead to opportunistic infections. It sounds so pretty, but not a good idea.

    A general rule of thumb is 10 gallons per average sized frog. So, no more than 5 to 6 frogs would be recommended.

    You can house albino red eyes with them, as you have mentioned. It will give you some variety of color. Michael Novy of Rainforest Junky's often has a retf species that is of a minty-green hue. This may also add color.

    The safest way is to keep only same species together.

    I did have a waterfall and pond in my first tank in which I had a male betta, in which never came in contact with my frog. I still provided a water bowl and she preferred that. That's an option. Avoid goldfish though, they are dirty fish. You would need a good filter and would have to let the water cycle well first before adding the frogs, to prevent any risk of disease to your frogs. The water can't be deep in case the frogs were to fall in and there should be live plants or large rocks to get out of the water if they were to fall, to prevent drowning.
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    Well I'll tell her that Red Eyes are all that end up in with our current frogs. I have a feeling our future home will turn into a petting zoo with all the critters of her fancy.

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    However, that doesn't mean you can't get another tank .
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    I have seen many people try and intermix species of reptiles/amphibians together. Honestly, I have never seen red eyes do well mixed with anything except their own species. I have seen cases when they were mixed in with Dumpy Tree Frogs. But the dumpys get significantly bigger and risk having the smaller Red eyes get picked on.
    I am sure some people have mixed and have had some success, but personally I have seen nothing but disaster occur when mixing species.

    Edit: if you do I would be sure each animal is checked for parasites and quarantined.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Heatheranne View Post
    However, that doesn't mean you can't get another tank .
    The "Lighthouse" my frogs are living in now would be a good candidate for that. Or the Ten gallon vertical conversion I have too. Although they are both kind of small so I think my brother's old 29 gallon saltwater tank that has been empty for a decade needs to be repurposed.

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    You need to have the same breed together

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