Fertilizers safe?

[mpmistr]

I would recommend against this.

[Elliriyanna]

Thats what I was thinking as well ... especially with frogs... I just keep having the planted tank people telling me I need this and that

[mpmistr]

Get fast growing plants that don't need fertilizers.

I suggest water sprite, wisteria, java fern, anubius, ect.

[Louis Charles Bruckner]

Well,
I have been using it for years on my planted 46g bow front.
with no ill effect to my DAF.
I use only
Flourish 250mL
and follow the directions to the letter.



Now that is on a tank that has a lot of small fish like neon tetras and one small frog.
So not a lot of wastes for the plants to process.

Now ACF are kinda heavy waste producers.
and if you don't have a lot of plants and only a few frogs.
then you shouldn't need any fertilizers.
But if you have lots a plants and only one frog then maybe.

[Elliriyanna]

Thats what I was going to use

and I did order low light low maintenance pets

I am thinking of underdosing a bit since it says one teaspoon for every 60 gallons 1 - 2 times a week ... I only have a 5 gallon so I would only need like a drop each dose ...

[Louis Charles Bruckner]

5 gallons how many frogs do you have?

you really don't need the fertilizer.
For that small of a tank and even just one ACF.

[Elliriyanna]

I dont have any ... The tank is in the works ... I am still cycling my current 5 gallon and I have another on the way which will be the ADF tank.

I want my plants healthy and future my frogs ...

[Louis Charles Bruckner]

OK,
if you are setting one up then it would be ok.

And if you are getting your plants from a Local fish store. ( a real one not like petsmart)
then it will have some good starter bacteria to get your cycle started.
Now the plants from places like petsmart that are in tubes with hydrogell
do not have the bacteria as much as ones that are in a tank when you buy them.

The only positive thing about getting the plants that are in a tube is that they are 100% snail free.
But I like having snails they help keep things clean.
and when they start to get out of control I just thin out the herd a bit.

BTW with only 5 gallons I would stick with a max of two ACF's and that will be a bit
cramped when they get to adult size.

also FYI ACF are banned in a lot of states.
if you get them keep them until they pass do not release them.

[Elliriyanna]

I actually ordered them from the planted tank forum members As far as cycling the frog tank I have been discussing that lol and I have it all planned out ... it will be cycled using my current tank.

This is off topic but how many would you recommend in a 5 gallon? I was thinking a pair would do well using the 2- 2.5 gallon rule.

I don't want to start any more ADF threads lol

[mpmistr]

If you must use fertilizers I would use a half dose. The copper and iron is toxic to frogs. Flourish is mostly carbon I'm not sure if its a true fertilizer in the classic sense. I know people with shrimp tanks avoid fertilizers as they are as toxic to inverts as they are amphibians.