Sick Cornuta...Neurological?

[DeeDub]

I'll get a fecal done on everyone. Already have it lined out for next Mon. I need to collect some turds though.

Yes I've used the same tongs. The plexi was not sealed in. The sub was pretty smelly.

I'm pretty sure this was my failure. It sucks.

The peppermint was healthy when I got it. He lost a little weight due to stress, but gained it back and was doing well. He is improving. His color is back. I'll keep him on paper towels in a deli cup for a few more days. When I change his water it is usually pretty smelly.

[Lija]

not necessarily your failure, on a contrary it sounds as you were doing everything right and I imagine how bad you feel, been there too and it sucks.
look if I were you I would quarantine everyone who was in contact, clean and disinfect everything. keep very close eye on the other cornuta. smelly in combination with above symptoms sounds very much as pathogenic protozoa. when you take fecal samples make sure they all fresh. Peppermint might have that too, but sometimes protozoa just weakens immunity and then it looks like bacterial infection on a skin + slightly runny and smelly poop. By smelly I mean excessively smelly if you know what i mean.

[GrifTheGreat]

Protozoa infections are normally caused by exposure to dirty stagnant water for ampbibs, but if the substrate was over saturated then they can begin there. Lija has pretty much covered everything on the protozoa, but usually blood is in the runny stool once the frog has the full blown infection. Worms can also cause these symotoms so a parasite is most definitely the cause. A Flagyl/Panacur solution is great at killing protozoa and parasitic worms. Your Vet may percribe this after a fecal exam if the results prove positive.

Skin falling off though is not a normal symptom of these infections, but dry skin is which could be why the frog is having trouble shedding and can damage the sensitive skin beneath. This could explain the damaged or missing skin.

[DVirginiana]

Don't beat yourself up over it. At least you recognized there was a problem and caught it before it went through the rest of your animals. Once bacterial/protozoan populations get started in substrate (since you could smell it that's probably what it was) they can multiply really quickly in wet environments like that.

[DeeDub]

The cornuta sub was only two weeks old. The peppermint was three. The cornuta sub smelled like sulfur when I changed it today. When I mentioned the water stinking I am referring to the water in the peppermint's temp dish. It really stinks. I change it twice a day for The last week.

I don't know what happened, but every one is quarantined with sterile temp enclosures. I've cleaned out everyone's tanks and replaced with fresh eco earth.

There was no dry skin. Over saturation was a possibility in the peppermints cage, but the cornuta cage was perfect. No chance anyone was too dry.

[GrifTheGreat]

The cornuta sub was only two weeks old. The peppermint was three. The cornuta sub smelled like sulfur when I changed it today. When I mentioned the water stinking I am referring to the water in the peppermint's temp dish. It really stinks. I change it twice a day for The last week.

I don't know what happened, but every one is quarantined with sterile temp enclosures. I've cleaned out everyone's tanks and replaced with fresh eco earth.

There was no dry skin. Over saturation was a possibility in the peppermints cage, but the cornuta cage was perfect. No chance anyone was too dry.

I was not saying you kept them dry. A symptom of worms is dry skin. If infected no matter how moist the environment the frog will have dry tacky skin. Causes them to have difficulty shedding.

I'll bet Lija is right and it is Protozoa.

The sulfer smell is an infection. Overly saturated substrate mixed with the amonia from their urine will have a very stagnant almost sulfer smell to it. Do you toss(mix up) your frogs substrate regularly?

[Lija]

Deedub, all frogs have protozoa in small quantities, no matter how clean they kept, they don't no anything bad, they just are. it is very rare when they have patogenic one, but it happens and I bet you got that one with your cornuta. Some frogs are carriers of those patogenic ones, meaning they look ok, eat, a bit less a bit picky, you won't notice anything other then slightly runny smelly poop, you would say something is off but you can't really put your finger on it and since it is off just a bit you think it is normal, however over time protozoa will slowly impact immunity opening a gate for secondary infection. How long it'll take depends on a individual frog, husbandry, amount of stress, some may go for years without any clear symptoms, some will pass away very fast even kept in ideal conditions.
I know how frustrating it feels when you know protozoa most known as dirty environment problem, however patogenic protozoa infection itself has nothing to do with it. I bet your cornuta had it when you got her, pepermint got infected at your home from her and the other cornuta is probably more resistant to the infection.
when you get fecal samples tested make sure vet has experience with it. but i think it would be safe to get everyone treated either way.

I was very lucky to have cat with protozoa infection, it took me 2 years to figure that out and 2 weeks to treat it and i had protozoa problem in frogs too, one of them ( pacman) didn't make it despite treatment, the other one is pixie, who got infected from the pacman, a male who at 10 months is just 4,5" long he is growing very slowly now and eating, he will be small but fine. but it took me about 4 month to get my pixie better, for pacman it was 8 months battle that we lost. so your story sounds very much familiar to me (((
to add - believe me they were kept in spot on environment all the time and stress free as possible, feeding with same tongs was the only connecting thing, so I'm telling you, don't beat yourself up over this, just get everyone treated and get more tongs, i have 5 now