Sick Cornuta...Neurological?

[DeeDub]

Well I always feel fortunate that my Husbandry keeps my frogs healthy and happy. Guess not, I've got a sick Cornuta. This morning I found my little Cornuta (Green) upside down in his enclosure. He's been off food for about a week and has just seemed off. He's always ate well, not quite as good as Purple (the other cornuta), but hasn't grown much and over the last two weeks, seems to be having trouble striking food. He would always bite what I put in front of him, but the last week, he does a little "perk up"....almost like a strike, but doesn't open his mouth. Anyway, I'll answer the questions. BTW, he's got the 'lean' to one side this morning. I noticed that last night as well, but thought he was just sitting wierd in his hole.

1. one side of a 5 gallon glass tank. (I already got his counterpart out of the other side)
2. 2 Cornuta (not cohabitated, they are separated by plexiglass)
3. 68-75% RH
4. 80 deg. F
5. Dechlorinated tap water (Repti-safe)
6. Coir
7. One shallow water dish. Four tiny Pathos (never had fertilizers),
8. Small Dubia, Crickets, Nightcrawler peices.
9. Miner-all 2 times per week. Vit-all once a week.
10. Zilla Mini dome with infrared Halogen.
11. Zoomed Hydro/therm temp Humidity controller
12. Jan 17 2013, ate 2 nightcrawler peices.
13. Yes, I found poop 2 days ago.
14. I'll post a pic below.
15. 2 mo? Mike any ideas?
16. 1.5 Mo
17. CB
18. Small Dubia, Crickets, Nightcrawler peices....Pacman food as a treat once every two weeks or so.
19. Never handled.
20. No traffic area.
21. Daily water changes, spot clean turds as needed (when I see em), Sub change once a month (unless I notice it needs it sooner).








My other Cornuta that I got at the same time is about 4 times the size. I assumed it was a female and this little guy is male. Maybe. Anyway. Any help is appreciated.
Thanks
Dustin

[DeeDub]

One more thing. My Peppermint is sick as well. He was toxing out. Also developed a hole in one hind leg (skin just gone). He isn't out of the woods, but is doing better. Been treating with Melafix, and Malachite green. He is retaining shed, and overall just sick. Off color, off food etc. Maybe had some bad feeders is what I'm thinking. Both went off food around the same three days.

[Lija]

sorry to hear why your peppermint was toxing out? it shouldn't be related to feeders

does your cornuta have any skin lesions? how did poop look like? how he was eating before and how did his poop looked like before? you said he wasn't really growing much.

[DeeDub]

Poop was runny on the cornuta. No skin lesions. Just went and checked him. He's dead. He looked like he had air bubbles in his stomach (his belly skin is translucent apparently. I could see the bubbles. He always ate good, but not as often as the other Cornuta.

I probably let the peppermints substrate go too long (3 weeks).

The only other thing I can think of is I.added some spring tails to all my cages about two weeks ago.

[GrifTheGreat]

Poop was runny on the cornuta. No skin lesions. Just went and checked him. He's dead. He looked like he had air bubbles in his stomach (his belly skin is translucent apparently. I could see the bubbles. He always ate good, but not as often as the other Cornuta.

I probably let the peppermints substrate go too long (3 weeks).

The only other thing I can think of is I.added some spring tails to all my cages about two weeks ago.

Sounds like your Cornuta had either parasites or a bacterial infection. The lean is usually a sign of pnemonia too. Fluid will build up in one of the lungs causing them to lean, but it could have been that the Green was lame(weak genetics). If you can I would have a Necropsy done on the Cornuta for an exact cause. Just a side note on Cornuta. They tend to like higher humidity. Usually around 80% to 85% and occationally higher.

On the Peppermint more than likely something was in the substrate causeing the skin to rot. Could have even been maggots, but they are usually visible. There is a disease they can get that causes the skin to rot or fall off, but I cannot remember the name or what causes it. If you can swab the frogs skin and seal the swab in bag and have a Vet test it. Something is seriously wrong here.

[DeeDub]

Could a fogger lead to pneumonia? I'll call the vet see with the test or necropsy would be price wise. I'm not gonna spend; a bunch of money on a dead frog....that's just me. I see the merit in it for future preventative measures, but I'm just not going to spend money to have the vet tell me they don't know what was wrong. herp vets here are not very good.