Quote Originally Posted by Herpguy View Post
Actually quail have a higher fat content than either of them at 31.9%. I have seen only maybe one or two cases of the "cloudy eye" and I am very skeptical on it being because of a rodent diet, as they have less protein than insects of similar size. Phillipe de Vosjoli himself advocates a rodent only diet once they reach adulthood. As stated before, I have an ornata that is going on 7 years of a nearly rodent exclusive diet with zero problems whatsoever, and I remember Ed Clark fed everything he had rodent only diets, including his cornuta.
Philippe is where my info on protein overload causing blindness is coming from. You cannot compare the tissues of an insect to a mammal or avian tissues. They are more complex and more dense. Whether these breeders still practice these feeding techniques or not I don't know, but that came from Philippes mouth not his books. I'm not one to argue over such things or change how anyone feeds their animals. What you feed your pets is your choice. I'm just offering a precaution. I've seen quite a few frogs fed only rodent die before reaching their average lifespan. More so since I've been on here. What the rodents are fed prior to being offered as food is the ultimate factor that will determin their protein and fat content not just an empty mouse. They are gutloaded just as insects are. Feed them an abundance of protein rich foods and they will cause an overload.

Protein overload can lead to kidney and liver failure as well. Basically too much of a good thing is just as bad as not enough.