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    Default What are the best Neoregalis?

    I recently bought a 18 x 18 x 24 Exo Terra enclosure and I'm in the process of collecting all the materials for it. Hopefully it will be set-up and grown in by springtime which is when I plan on buying the frogs. I'm designing this enclosure with Vents or Imitators in mind and will be planting a number of Bromeliads.

    My question concerns Neoraglias in particular. Are there some species of Neoregalias that are preferred for these two species of dart frogs? Are there some species that are deeper or hold water better or liked better by these frogs?

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    Default Re: What are the best Neoregalis?

    Hi Happy Frog,
    I currently have 3 very small broms in my imitator enclosure. ( brom species -unknown)
    I worry about the water, actually.
    I have re-positioned the 'tilt' on them a few times.
    I have spoken to breeders that have stated they have lost new hatched tads because they 'drowned'.
    (If left in the main tank, of course)

    I can see how this could happen. Even an adult will ,really, push themselves down inside.

    ie :Last night in the imitator enclosure: My male spent hours calling ( they have been busy as of late ). He was in a brom ( facing out). The female positioned herself right in front of him. He was very covered with water. If the brom was positioned vertically ........the water would have been much deeper then he is long.

    Plus, I often wonder why we even use them ? since most darts live on the ground, close to the ground, or in trees close to the ground; and most broms are terrestrial. Having said that, I'm sure there must be some small species of brom that grows on/or near the forest floor among the leaf litter and debris? I would love to know what species species is. We can't plant pineapples

    There are a few plants that have cupped leaves that water will sit in if you have a regular misting system. There is one, in particular.....of course I have forgotten the name of it. I will take a photo if this plant and post it here later. It does very well with constant 'wet feet'.

    Just food for thought.
    Lynn
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    Dendrobates auratus “Costa Rican Green Black"
    Dendrobates auratus "Pena Blanca"
    Dendrobates tinctorius “New River”
    Dendrobates tinctorius "Green Sipaliwini"
    Dendrobates tinctorius “Powder Blue"
    Dendrobates tinctorius "French Guiana Dwarf Cobalt"

    Phyllobates terribilis “Mint”
    Phyllobates terribilis "Orange"
    Phyllobates bicolor "Uraba"

    Oophaga pumilio "Black Jeans"
    Oophaga pumilio "Isla Popa"
    Oophaga pumilio "Bastimentos"
    Oophaga pumilio “Mimbitimbi”
    Oophaga pumilio "Rio Colubre"
    Oophaga pumilio "Red Frog Beach”
    Oophaga pumilio "Rio Branco"
    Oophaga pumilio “Valle del Rey”
    Oophaga pumilio "BriBri"
    Oophaga pumilio "El Dorado"
    Oophaga pumilio "Cristobal"
    Oophaga pumilio "Rambala"

    Oophaga “Vicentei” (blue)

    Oophaga sylvatica "Paru"
    Oophaga sylvatica "Pata Blanca"
    Oophaga histrionica “Redhead”
    Oophaga histrionica "Blue"
    Oophaga lehmanni "Red"
    Oophaga histrionica "Tado"

    Ranitomeya variabilis "Southern"
    Ranitomeya imitator "Varadero"
    Ranitomeya sirensis "Lower Ucayali"
    Ranitomeya vanzolinii

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    I took this photo yesterday at the NY Botantical Gardens. These are growing on the ground! The label is a bit hard to make out in my crummy photo--Cryptanthus ?

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    Dendrobates tinctorius "Green Sipaliwini"
    Dendrobates tinctorius “Powder Blue"
    Dendrobates tinctorius "French Guiana Dwarf Cobalt"

    Phyllobates terribilis “Mint”
    Phyllobates terribilis "Orange"
    Phyllobates bicolor "Uraba"

    Oophaga pumilio "Black Jeans"
    Oophaga pumilio "Isla Popa"
    Oophaga pumilio "Bastimentos"
    Oophaga pumilio “Mimbitimbi”
    Oophaga pumilio "Rio Colubre"
    Oophaga pumilio "Red Frog Beach”
    Oophaga pumilio "Rio Branco"
    Oophaga pumilio “Valle del Rey”
    Oophaga pumilio "BriBri"
    Oophaga pumilio "El Dorado"
    Oophaga pumilio "Cristobal"
    Oophaga pumilio "Rambala"

    Oophaga “Vicentei” (blue)

    Oophaga sylvatica "Paru"
    Oophaga sylvatica "Pata Blanca"
    Oophaga histrionica “Redhead”
    Oophaga histrionica "Blue"
    Oophaga lehmanni "Red"
    Oophaga histrionica "Tado"

    Ranitomeya variabilis "Southern"
    Ranitomeya imitator "Varadero"
    Ranitomeya sirensis "Lower Ucayali"
    Ranitomeya vanzolinii

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    I have the Silver spotted philodendron (Scindapsus picta 'Argyraeus') growing on the ground - doing well. Some of the leaves, hold water near the stem.

    The others :

    pic one -- this plant grows up right. However, a new leaf takes quite sometime to unfurl. They tuck themselves in the new leaves; but only a temporary spot since it is unavailable once the leaf opens. This is a really plant! Loves the humidity! Several different varieties.

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    pic 2 : ( pictured here it is planted in an upright position in the leuc tank ) I have this same plant--- planted flat in the imitator tank. ( I couldn't open the door just now to take the photo -a little escape artist was near the door ). The leaves grows w/ a little v shape that hods water. I forget the name of the this plant. I purchased it from "Black Jungle". I think?

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    Lynn
    Current Collection
    Dendrobates leucomelas - standard morph
    Dendrobates auratus “Costa Rican Green Black"
    Dendrobates auratus "Pena Blanca"
    Dendrobates tinctorius “New River”
    Dendrobates tinctorius "Green Sipaliwini"
    Dendrobates tinctorius “Powder Blue"
    Dendrobates tinctorius "French Guiana Dwarf Cobalt"

    Phyllobates terribilis “Mint”
    Phyllobates terribilis "Orange"
    Phyllobates bicolor "Uraba"

    Oophaga pumilio "Black Jeans"
    Oophaga pumilio "Isla Popa"
    Oophaga pumilio "Bastimentos"
    Oophaga pumilio “Mimbitimbi”
    Oophaga pumilio "Rio Colubre"
    Oophaga pumilio "Red Frog Beach”
    Oophaga pumilio "Rio Branco"
    Oophaga pumilio “Valle del Rey”
    Oophaga pumilio "BriBri"
    Oophaga pumilio "El Dorado"
    Oophaga pumilio "Cristobal"
    Oophaga pumilio "Rambala"

    Oophaga “Vicentei” (blue)

    Oophaga sylvatica "Paru"
    Oophaga sylvatica "Pata Blanca"
    Oophaga histrionica “Redhead”
    Oophaga histrionica "Blue"
    Oophaga lehmanni "Red"
    Oophaga histrionica "Tado"

    Ranitomeya variabilis "Southern"
    Ranitomeya imitator "Varadero"
    Ranitomeya sirensis "Lower Ucayali"
    Ranitomeya vanzolinii

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    Default Re: What are the best Neoregalis?

    To my knowledge, there are no neos that are "preferred" by the frogs. It's all pretty much a matter of your taste.

    A slight correction the what Lynn wrote. Most broms are epiphytes and live high in the tree canopy where they can get the sunlight they need, so using them in an enclosure for terrestrial frogs can seem a bit silly. But they are easy to grow and can be very dramatic with the right color mix and placement.

    Choose a few that you like and go for it. The frogs will love them. Even my white's enjoy the brom i threw in their tank
    1.0.0 Oophaga Pumilio 'Black Jeans'
    0.0.10 Phyllobates Vittatus
    0.0.3 Phyllobates Terribilis 'Mint'
    0.0.3 Dendrobates Tinctorius 'Patricia'
    0.0.5 Dendrobates Leucomelas
    0.0.2 Dendrobates Tinctorius 'Powder Blue'
    0.0.2 Ranitomeya Variabilis 'southern'
    0.0.3 Epipedobates Anthonyi 'zarayunga'
    1.2.0 Phyllobates bicolor
    0.0.3 Dendrobates tinctorius 'azureus'
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    0.0.1 Gramastola porteri
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    Quote Originally Posted by deranged chipmunk View Post
    To my knowledge, there are no neos that are "preferred" by the frogs. It's all pretty much a matter of your taste.

    A slight correction the what Lynn wrote. Most broms are epiphytes and live high in the tree canopy where they can get the sunlight they need, so using them in an enclosure for terrestrial frogs can seem a bit silly. But they are easy to grow and can be very dramatic with the right color mix and placement.

    Choose a few that you like and go for it. The frogs will love them. Even my white's enjoy the brom i threw in their tank

    My feelings exactly -post #2
    <Plus, I often wonder why we even use them ? since most darts live on the ground, close to the ground, or in trees close to the ground; and most broms are terrestrial. Having said that, I'm sure there must be some small species of brom that grows on/or near the forest floor among the leaf litter and debris? I would love to know what species species is. We can't plant pineapples >

    post #3
    NY Botantical is growing Cryptanthus on the ground / planted into the dirt.

    post #4
    I can't find those 2 darn plants anywhere?
    The one with the speckled leaf----the leaf is real stiff-almost plastic feeling...........sigh
    Current Collection
    Dendrobates leucomelas - standard morph
    Dendrobates auratus “Costa Rican Green Black"
    Dendrobates auratus "Pena Blanca"
    Dendrobates tinctorius “New River”
    Dendrobates tinctorius "Green Sipaliwini"
    Dendrobates tinctorius “Powder Blue"
    Dendrobates tinctorius "French Guiana Dwarf Cobalt"

    Phyllobates terribilis “Mint”
    Phyllobates terribilis "Orange"
    Phyllobates bicolor "Uraba"

    Oophaga pumilio "Black Jeans"
    Oophaga pumilio "Isla Popa"
    Oophaga pumilio "Bastimentos"
    Oophaga pumilio “Mimbitimbi”
    Oophaga pumilio "Rio Colubre"
    Oophaga pumilio "Red Frog Beach”
    Oophaga pumilio "Rio Branco"
    Oophaga pumilio “Valle del Rey”
    Oophaga pumilio "BriBri"
    Oophaga pumilio "El Dorado"
    Oophaga pumilio "Cristobal"
    Oophaga pumilio "Rambala"

    Oophaga “Vicentei” (blue)

    Oophaga sylvatica "Paru"
    Oophaga sylvatica "Pata Blanca"
    Oophaga histrionica “Redhead”
    Oophaga histrionica "Blue"
    Oophaga lehmanni "Red"
    Oophaga histrionica "Tado"

    Ranitomeya variabilis "Southern"
    Ranitomeya imitator "Varadero"
    Ranitomeya sirensis "Lower Ucayali"
    Ranitomeya vanzolinii

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    Aglaonema ?
    Current Collection
    Dendrobates leucomelas - standard morph
    Dendrobates auratus “Costa Rican Green Black"
    Dendrobates auratus "Pena Blanca"
    Dendrobates tinctorius “New River”
    Dendrobates tinctorius "Green Sipaliwini"
    Dendrobates tinctorius “Powder Blue"
    Dendrobates tinctorius "French Guiana Dwarf Cobalt"

    Phyllobates terribilis “Mint”
    Phyllobates terribilis "Orange"
    Phyllobates bicolor "Uraba"

    Oophaga pumilio "Black Jeans"
    Oophaga pumilio "Isla Popa"
    Oophaga pumilio "Bastimentos"
    Oophaga pumilio “Mimbitimbi”
    Oophaga pumilio "Rio Colubre"
    Oophaga pumilio "Red Frog Beach”
    Oophaga pumilio "Rio Branco"
    Oophaga pumilio “Valle del Rey”
    Oophaga pumilio "BriBri"
    Oophaga pumilio "El Dorado"
    Oophaga pumilio "Cristobal"
    Oophaga pumilio "Rambala"

    Oophaga “Vicentei” (blue)

    Oophaga sylvatica "Paru"
    Oophaga sylvatica "Pata Blanca"
    Oophaga histrionica “Redhead”
    Oophaga histrionica "Blue"
    Oophaga lehmanni "Red"
    Oophaga histrionica "Tado"

    Ranitomeya variabilis "Southern"
    Ranitomeya imitator "Varadero"
    Ranitomeya sirensis "Lower Ucayali"
    Ranitomeya vanzolinii

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    Quote Originally Posted by flybyferns View Post
    I have the Silver spotted philodendron (Scindapsus picta 'Argyraeus') growing on the ground - doing well. Some of the leaves, hold water near the stem.

    The others :

    pic one -- this plant grows up right. However, a new leaf takes quite sometime to unfurl. They tuck themselves in the new leaves; but only a temporary spot since it is unavailable once the leaf opens. This is a really plant! Loves the humidity! Several different varieties.

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    pic 2 : ( pictured here it is planted in an upright position in the leuc tank ) I have this same plant--- planted flat in the imitator tank. ( I couldn't open the door just now to take the photo -a little escape artist was near the door ). The leaves grows w/ a little v shape that hods water. I forget the name of the this plant. I purchased it from "Black Jungle". I think?

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    Lynn
    I was on a mission ( I found the information in my FF 'album description' ).........who would of thought?

    pic 1--a Calathea - dont' knwo which one
    pic 2- a spotted Dracaena
    Good gracious !
    Current Collection
    Dendrobates leucomelas - standard morph
    Dendrobates auratus “Costa Rican Green Black"
    Dendrobates auratus "Pena Blanca"
    Dendrobates tinctorius “New River”
    Dendrobates tinctorius "Green Sipaliwini"
    Dendrobates tinctorius “Powder Blue"
    Dendrobates tinctorius "French Guiana Dwarf Cobalt"

    Phyllobates terribilis “Mint”
    Phyllobates terribilis "Orange"
    Phyllobates bicolor "Uraba"

    Oophaga pumilio "Black Jeans"
    Oophaga pumilio "Isla Popa"
    Oophaga pumilio "Bastimentos"
    Oophaga pumilio “Mimbitimbi”
    Oophaga pumilio "Rio Colubre"
    Oophaga pumilio "Red Frog Beach”
    Oophaga pumilio "Rio Branco"
    Oophaga pumilio “Valle del Rey”
    Oophaga pumilio "BriBri"
    Oophaga pumilio "El Dorado"
    Oophaga pumilio "Cristobal"
    Oophaga pumilio "Rambala"

    Oophaga “Vicentei” (blue)

    Oophaga sylvatica "Paru"
    Oophaga sylvatica "Pata Blanca"
    Oophaga histrionica “Redhead”
    Oophaga histrionica "Blue"
    Oophaga lehmanni "Red"
    Oophaga histrionica "Tado"

    Ranitomeya variabilis "Southern"
    Ranitomeya imitator "Varadero"
    Ranitomeya sirensis "Lower Ucayali"
    Ranitomeya vanzolinii

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