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    I would like to find some genetic books on frogs. I'm going to be adding more species this summer.

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    Looks like a pied lol! The way the color is blotched (well pied is a snake term but ya get what I mean) it's amazing
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deac77 View Post
    Looks like a pied lol! The way the color is blotched (well pied is a snake term but ya get what I mean) it's amazing
    we use the term for geckos too i was thinking about the same, may be it is a new mutation? cos it looks like not just deferent colored eyes but spots of different skin color too, or it is just a pic?
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    Interesting. On a side note...... is its tail kinked?
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    Tail is kinked from the net. It won't have any effect on it as a frog. Yes two different eye colors

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    I would definitely get with some snake people on forums, they definitely are the best with genetics. This is different from a piedbald because they still have black eyes and have leucistic traits, not albino ones. I highly doubt this frog is genetic though.

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    The genetics for pacman frogs are different than snakes. That's the only issue.

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    I dont think its pied . It lacks the normal skin color and white patches that most pied animals have .Nor would I think its amel or albino . The genetics would be hard to prove id think with over a thousand offspring from almost unknown origins with multiple males and females all spawning together . You just couldn't narrow down the parents and even breeding it to a normal wouldnt work because im pretty sure that most normal pac mans are het albino . That is assuming that frog genetics are like snake genetics in simple recessive terms . With a oddball snake you breed it to a known normal and breed the offspring back to the odd parent if the oddball trait doesnt show up in the first breeding of it .It will be intersting to see how this comes out and hopefully the little tadpole pollywog does well and you can raise it up and get a chance a recreating it .

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    How are pac man frog genetics different ?

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    Yeah every living organism works off the same genetic principles. The only thing that would be extremely difficult is exactly what Cwcuz2112 said; it would be way too hard to narrow down the specific genetics of each froglet with the method required to breed them successfully. Plus, like he said, there really is no way to know the existing genetics of the parents themselves.

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    The problem is when you breed say a normal and an albino together you get 2 to 4 colors including albinos. With an albino ball x normal you get normals and normal het albinos.

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    I'd be willing to bet that's happening because these frogs have been bred from the same gene pool for 30 years, so probably almost every cranwelli is het for albino, among with many other traits that have been mixed in there.

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    As a reptile breeder i have never seen or even heard of this specific type of genetic mutation. the closest thing i can come up with is albino paradox. In the snake world for an example reccessive traits like if you breed albinos together you get albinos and normals but %100 heterozygous albino. But paradox is just a random gene that pops up and cant be duplicated but theres a high chance of all the siblings of the albino paradox to carry the paradox gene. It will just randomly appear out of no where from one random breeding.

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    That's why it would be hard to chart the genetics. It would take a good 10 years to create a line that was pure albino.

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    Totally the best thing to do is to document the parents of this tadpole and save a couple hold backs from that clutch. And try to see if they do produce more or not from breeding the siblings.

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    Deffinately keep track of the parentage & rebreed them for a chance at more to start your own designer line.

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    Maybe it's a chimera. An animal with two different sets of genes (sorta like a fusion of fraternal twins that make one animal), heterochromatic eyes are a sign. It can happen in humans as well, but it's very rare for any creature.

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    I think its chimera also.

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    Wow!! I'm working on purchasing a piebald bullfrog a once in a million buy. Is this little guy still alive? Would love to know how he morphed if still alive.

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    No he didn't make it past the stage in my avatar picture


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