when you are ready to plant, remind me, and i will probably be able to hook you up with some oak leaf creeping fig and a couple other vines of course she agreed, she did the math and figured out that it's cheaper than a reef set up.....LOL does she know about the flies yet??? That was the hard thing to convince my wife on, and don't even get me started on how she was when i mentioned roaches.....LMAO!!