HELP! Bullfrog gone completely brown, no green!

[Heatheranne]

Oh yeah...you are amongst a bunch of frog fanatics...we love them too .

[Gnag the nameless]

I thought so. We can get 10 liter jugs of water over here for a really cheap price too. I used to collect rainwater for 'em, but it takes a lot of time unless there are heavy rainfalls. [You may be shocked by this] In my area, we don't get much snow either, so I rely on the bottled spring water.

When they were in the 20G, I'd clean it out with 5% bleach, though I'm not sure what I'll do with the 30G. I'm pretty short for a teen, and neither am I the weight-lifting kind, so I can't really carry the tank outside to be cleaned. Any ideas?

I don't think that it's contamination [It could just be me trying to hide the possibility, too] because it would've affected Bumpy as well, and she seems fine to me. Probably just stress, because Gnag had really adapted to the last tank. Bumpy didn't like it much, actually, she'd hide all day.

Well, the light for my room is a fluorescent CFL, 100 watt. I can't stand it [I'm replacing it soon, when I get the time or when I remember to] so a small UV lamp for the tank will be what I can go with. I prefer a darker room, I'm a bit of a night owl.

Canada has the best nightcrawlers? Excellent! Also, if my hoppers get as big as your hopper, can I feed them goldfish and guppies instead of mice? I've already spoken to my parents on the matter, and they're repulsed by the idea of feeding mice, even frozen or pinkies to my frogs.

I know, right? I got the cabinet for an amazing price too, 20$, so in total, 55$. I saw the exact same deal at Petcetera, 30G tank and cabinet, and guess how much it was? 600$! And I got mine for 55$! And that Petco deal sounds good. My friends are all pet owners [One of my friends family runs an animal shelter] and an opportunity like that... wow, I've got to ask my friends if they know of a Petco around!

Alright. I always do keep a close eye on my frogs, anyways, so I'll tell the forum if anything occurs. I just fear that Gnag may die of stress, I've heard of that happening to frogs.

The heater is a good idea. If it's expensive, I'll just keep my room warm. It's already a warm spot in the house, which is good.

Yeah, my friend knows quite a bit about animals. He actually caught the frogs for me. That was the best B-day present I've ever had

Yep, I can't think of anymore. Again, thanks for spending your time helping another frog fanatic. I'll update this thread if anything new happens, and send you some pictures when Gnag is good and green again. I'll get the UV light, water plants, thermometer and possibly the water heater tomorrow. Goodnight!

[UncleChester]

I thought so. We can get 10 liter jugs of water over here for a really cheap price too. I used to collect rainwater for 'em, but it takes a lot of time unless there are heavy rainfalls. [You may be shocked by this] In my area, we don't get much snow either, so I rely on the bottled spring water.

If you live in a house, get a rain barrel and put it under the downspout. You live in Vancouver...you will collect more water than you can use, especially with spring around the corner.

When they were in the 20G, I'd clean it out with 5% bleach, though I'm not sure what I'll do with the 30G. I'm pretty short for a teen, and neither am I the weight-lifting kind, so I can't really carry the tank outside to be cleaned. Any ideas?

You can siphon the water out with a hose and remove it one manageable bucket at a time.

Canada has the best nightcrawlers? Excellent! Also, if my hoppers get as big as your hopper, can I feed them goldfish and guppies instead of mice? I've already spoken to my parents on the matter, and they're repulsed by the idea of feeding mice, even frozen or pinkies to my frogs.

Heather is probably referring to 'Canadian Nightcrawlers', Lumbricus terrestris, which ironically aren't actually even native to Canada at all. They're common in bait shops, but I dig mine up from chemical free areas. Here was a thread with some responses by people who know way more than me about http://www.frogforum.net/tree-frogs/...ght-foods.html

Usually stuff with bones is avoided as feeders for frogs, fish from stores can be of questionable health. Of course, in the wild a bullfrogs are well known for eating just about anything it can get, including birds.

[demon amphibians]

remember to keep an eye on its under belly if brownish red spots are occurring it is fungal. Your frogs health will go back and forth from good to bad. And these spots can come and go. This is the only illness i have experienced but color change was the first indicator i noticed.

[Gnag the nameless]

Alright, I'll check her right now. Thanks for the info, Demon.

Can't find anything unusual on Bumpy's belly. Gnag was too fast for me to get, either. I'll probably just leave them alone now. They were hopping and swimming last night, and eating the crickets I'd placed on the lily pads, so they seem fine.

One quick note: Gnag likes to bask in the evening, and whenever she does, her coloration brightens to green snaking around the brown and black, like this frog:

http://soundwaves.usgs.gov/2006/01/B...rown_altLG.jpg

But when I check in the morning, it is brown again. Could this hint at anything? I'll add more foliage soon as well.
Bumpy's colors are a bit dramatic, one day she's greenish, the other, the same color as Gnag. It's always been this way with Bumpy, though her colors are usually on the darker side.

[demon amphibians]

I really don't think its fungal based on what you have mentioned. If it was something life threatening such as a fungal infection your frogs would be lethargic and wouldn't eat let alone hop around. But its is definitely something to keep an eye on. Glad I could give what little Knowledge I can. I hope your frogs have many more years of hopping around eating bugs.

[Gnag the nameless]

Yeah, I doubt that too, they've been eating, swimming, hopping, basking, and pooping just like normal. Hopefully in the summer they'll get back to normal, or when I add more foliage. And I always do keep an eye on my hoppers.

Thanks for helping a fellow frog fanatic if you need any advice, suggestions, or anything, just ask.