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    Ok guys thanks for your help again, I feel Im learning a good deal from this forum

    Firstly Griff I was thinking about the 45x45x45 because it looks like I cant get the 45x45x30 model in England. The next size model after the 45x45x45 is the 30x30x30, would that be ok as the frog reaches adulthood?

    So my initial set up thinking is now this:

    Housing

    1. Exo Terra terrarium 45x45x45 or 30x30x30 (depending on what you guys think?)
    2. Covers for the sides as well as the back.

    Heating and Humidity

    I seem to have two options here:
    Firstly:
    1. Infared bulb with the light dome.
    2. The Zoo Med Repti Fogger.
    3. A thermo/hygrostat

    Secondly:
    1. An uth (placed on the side of the terrarium)
    2. Zoo Med Repti Fogger.
    3. A thermo/hygrostat.

    Substrate:

    1. Coco husk
    2. Are there any other types I can use like a moss etc (that wont cause impaction?).

    Decoration:

    1. Plastic hanging plants.
    2. Plastic ground plants.
    3. Some plastic vines.

    Water:

    1. Medium sized exo terra water dish.
    2. Appropriate water conditioner (distilled for the fogger)

    Food:

    1. I believe earthworms (you guys call them night crawlers I think lol), crickets, locusts and even mice can be given.
    2. Appropriate supplements for dusting.

    Could you guys let me know what you think of this and what potential problems/plus points I might find with this choice?
    Also I think Newfrogdudes idea of making a fogger is awesome, but I have a few spare £/$'s and Im not sure I would trust myself to not burn my house down, Im not the best at DIY lol, but thanks for the idea!
    Sorry to be such a pain with the questions but we all want the frogs to live happily dont we?
    Anyway I made my first purchase and bought a keepers handbook, so I guess my adventure starts here!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pharaoh View Post
    Ok guys thanks for your help again, I feel Im learning a good deal from this forum

    Firstly Griff I was thinking about the 45x45x45 because it looks like I cant get the 45x45x30 model in England. The next size model after the 45x45x45 is the 30x30x30, would that be ok as the frog reaches adulthood?

    So my initial set up thinking is now this:

    Housing

    1. Exo Terra terrarium 45x45x45 or 30x30x30 (depending on what you guys think?)
    2. Covers for the sides as well as the back.

    Heating and Humidity

    I seem to have two options here:
    Firstly:
    1. Infared bulb with the light dome.
    2. The Zoo Med Repti Fogger.
    3. A thermo/hygrostat

    Secondly:
    1. An uth (placed on the side of the terrarium)
    2. Zoo Med Repti Fogger.
    3. A thermo/hygrostat.

    Substrate:

    1. Coco husk
    2. Are there any other types I can use like a moss etc (that wont cause impaction?).

    Decoration:

    1. Plastic hanging plants.
    2. Plastic ground plants.
    3. Some plastic vines.

    Water:

    1. Medium sized exo terra water dish.
    2. Appropriate water conditioner (distilled for the fogger)

    Food:

    1. I believe earthworms (you guys call them night crawlers I think lol), crickets, locusts and even mice can be given.
    2. Appropriate supplements for dusting.

    Could you guys let me know what you think of this and what potential problems/plus points I might find with this choice?
    Also I think Newfrogdudes idea of making a fogger is awesome, but I have a few spare £/$'s and Im not sure I would trust myself to not burn my house down, Im not the best at DIY lol, but thanks for the idea!
    Sorry to be such a pain with the questions but we all want the frogs to live happily dont we?
    Anyway I made my first purchase and bought a keepers handbook, so I guess my adventure starts here!
    Sounds good. A 30cm cube isn't bad at all for a young frog, but consider that the larger the enclosure the harder it will be for the frog to catch it's food if not tong trained. Plus there would be more places for the food to hide. Crickets hide anywhere even going as far as burrowing into the coconut fiber.

    Keep in mind that Coconut Husk is not the same product as Cocont Fiber. Coconut Husk is not finely ground like the Fiber is and can cause impaction. Get Coconut Fiber. Mosses are all an impaction risk for large species of frog with voracious appetites so be careful.

    Your heating units combined with a Zoo Med Hygrotherm and Reptifogger will work well, but if you find yourself needing more heat just use both the UTH and Lamp together. Make sure the lamp you buy has a dimmer swith so you can dial down the amount of light and heat produced by the bulb. The Hygrotherm will assist greatly in maintaining your frog's climate.

    A variety is best when feeding your frog. It is healthier and keeps them from getting bored with a particular food item.
    Please note that mice are only treats and should only be offered as Pinky Mice and Fuzzy Mice to prevent risk of impaction. They also should be dusted before offering them to the frog once a month. Also note that the frog must be at least 2.5"(10cm) SVL(Snout to Vent Length) before offering the frog it's first Pinky Mouse.


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    Thanks Griff!

    Ill make sure I get the fiber and not husk, Ill also leave the moss well alone!
    Just one more thing, What size lamp/heatmat will I need for both size terrariums (though I think ill en up with the 30sq one now)?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pharaoh View Post
    Thanks Griff!

    Ill make sure I get the fiber and not husk, Ill also leave the moss well alone!
    Just one more thing, What size lamp/heatmat will I need for both size terrariums (though I think ill en up with the 30sq one now)?
    5.5 inch Fluker's Clamp Lamp with Dimmer. Use 50 watt bulb or less. 6"x8" Zoo Med UTH and make sure you place it on the side. Water dish should be placed on the opposite side from the UTH to have a warm side and cool side. Place the sensor for the hygrotherm in the lower center of the back wall 1 inch to 1.5 inches above the substrate.


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    Thanks a million everybody! Us new starters really do appreciate all the time and help you give us, even it is seems like we ask the same questions over and over lol!

    Thanks again

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pharaoh View Post
    Thanks a million everybody! Us new starters really do appreciate all the time and help you give us, even it is seems like we ask the same questions over and over lol!

    Thanks again
    You're welcome! :-D The point of this forum is to share knowledge and of course, the joy of keeping frogs! There is always something more to learn. I always say that it is better to ask a stupid question than to make a stupid mistake. We want these amazing creatures to have the long, healthy lives they deserve.


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    And take care not to get the sensor wet.
    on my first hygrotherm I owned, I didn't place the sensor well
    and the frog nocked it down into the water and ever since then
    it has been very slow to sense RH changes.
    Causing huge swings in humidity.
    I would also get separate Temp and RH gauges to double check
    the hygrotherm.

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