Nah, you seem more experienced than I am by a long shot. I'd expected removing Ph not to be easy, but I'm up to the challenge if it's for my frogs. This may sound stupid, but how do I test the water? I agree with your saying, rushing things never turns out as good as taking them slowly [Homework has taught me that ]. I'm definitely considering to try to use the Dechlorinated tap water. Thanks for all the advice