Hello, Frog Forum. I have something I need opinions on...

[deranged chipmunk]

is this their first time with distilled water? distilled water is devoid of any minerals that the frogs actually need. your best bet would be to use tap water that has been dechlorinated. i can tell you your pH, it's 7.0. distilled water is neutral in every way. no minerals, means nothing to buffer the pH to. i wouldn't believe that the sound of rushing water would disturb them. bullfrogs are found near streams as well as ponds and lakes. they may even actually like it. the increased flow will also disperse the film on the top of the water for you.

as far as their color, maybe they are still acclimating to a new environment. much like you or i would if we were suddenly moved from our homes.

[Gnag the nameless]

is this their first time with distilled water? distilled water is devoid of any minerals that the frogs actually need. your best bet would be to use tap water that has been dechlorinated. i can tell you your pH, it's 7.0. distilled water is neutral in every way. no minerals, means nothing to buffer the pH to. i wouldn't believe that the sound of rushing water would disturb them. bullfrogs are found near streams as well as ponds and lakes. they may even actually like it. the increased flow will also disperse the film on the top of the water for you.

as far as their color, maybe they are still acclimating to a new environment. much like you or i would if we were suddenly moved from our homes.

No, no, I've been using distilled water [Correction: Ozonated (Pure spring water)] ever since I got my little hoppers. How much does a dechlorinater cost? And how long would it take to dechlorinate? If it costs below, maybe a bit more, than 100$, I'm up to it. I'm devoted to these frogs, they're all I talk about. It's a relief to tell my pH is low. As for the filter, that's an even bigger relief. I want my frogs to be as happy, relaxed, and healthy as possible. Yes, I do have slight regrets for taking them from their homes, part of the reason I'm "Wasting all your money" as my friends say to me. However, I think having cute and unique pets is great, as long as they are given the best possible home. It's certainly worth it to hear them swimming about, and occasionally, letting out a croak. And I doubt Bumpy, or possible Gnag would've still been alive by now if they stayed in the lake, because there are lots of big bullfrogs at the lake, along with even larger fish, herons, and of course, humans [No electric boats, thank goodness.] However, I do feel it is doing my natural frogs some good. I almost never see them anymore due to the cannibalistic and invasive bullfrogs that have come here. Taking two female bullfrogs out of the lake, but not hurting them is a humane and effective way to give our natural frogs a slightly better chance, if only by a tiny bit

[deranged chipmunk]

you don't have to spend any money on a dechlorinator, if you don't mind having a bunch of buckets around. if you fill a bottle of water up an leave it open, the chlorine will off gas on it's own in 24 hours. and remember, you're pH is only that way with the distilled water. once you put dechlorinated tap water, it WILL change. it is totally different water.

and don't get me wrong. i was just making an analogy about them needing time to get used to the place. i'm not here to condemn you for collecting wild frogs. and you just may have saved their lives

[Gnag the nameless]

Great! When I had them in the 20 Gallon when they were bullfroglets, I had tons of buckets as I cleaned out the tank every week. Now that I have the filter, I won't have to clean them out as often, meaning I can use all 6 buckets for de-chlorifying water! Alright, but one question: How do I reduce Ph levels?

Don't worry, no harm done or feelings hurt. Thanks for the advice, being a new person to the world of frogs, learning from experts such as yourself is the best way to become a good frog owner. And yeah I might've

[deranged chipmunk]

oh, believe me, i'm far from an expert...LOL but i do know this for a fact, reducing pH is not easy. test it first to see what it is, then, if need be, we can figure out what to do with your water. i have a saying i use in real life, but never in the forums, "you can't rush into these things". now, at home, it's my way of getting out of housework, but it's true. you put a lot of money and effort into this. so why rush it, and risk making a mistake? go slow, take things slowly, you'll thank yourself later that you did and your frogs will definitely thank you

[Gnag the nameless]

Nah, you seem more experienced than I am by a long shot. I'd expected removing Ph not to be easy, but I'm up to the challenge if it's for my frogs. This may sound stupid, but how do I test the water? I agree with your saying, rushing things never turns out as good as taking them slowly [Homework has taught me that ]. I'm definitely considering to try to use the Dechlorinated tap water. Thanks for all the advice

[deranged chipmunk]

not a problem. get yourself a freshwater pH kit. you can get them pretty much anywhere they sell fish stuff. or, you can take your water to petsmart and they will test it for free. it will probably be off a little, but it would give you a good, rough baseline.

[GrifTheGreat]

you don't have to spend any money on a dechlorinator, if you don't mind having a bunch of buckets around. if you fill a bottle of water up an leave it open, the chlorine will off gas on it's own in 24 hours. and remember, you're pH is only that way with the distilled water. once you put dechlorinated tap water, it WILL change. it is totally different water.

and don't get me wrong. i was just making an analogy about them needing time to get used to the place. i'm not here to condemn you for collecting wild frogs. and you just may have saved their lives

If the tap water in your area also has Chlorimines it will not evaporate like chlorine and will remain behind. Heavy metals also do not evaporate. The 48 hour set out will do nothing if the water still contains chemicals and heavy metals. Using either natural spring water ir treated tap water is the way to go.

Bill is right about distilled water. It will eventually make your frogs sick because it is nothing but pure water. No minerals or salts that the frogs need for proper hydration and bodily functions. Use soring water or treated tap water. Distilled will leach vitamins, nutrients and electrolytes out of your frogs.

[Gnag the nameless]

Well, let me go check the brand of the water I get. I'm not sure if it is actually distilled water.... Real Canadian Natural Spring Water. That's the brand. And I will definitely take note of that. I've never actually paid attention to whether it was distilled water or not, I just assumed it was... I hope that wasn't a stupid move of mine. And yes, I did fear that Chloramine might've been an issue.

[Gnag the nameless]

Yes, it is Ozonated water. That's it. Ah, I must've forgot. Is Ozonated acceptable to use with Bullfrogs? I apologize for my rather limited skills in the frog care expertise, these hoppers are my first frogs ever.

[deranged chipmunk]

If the tap water in your area also has Chlorimines it will not evaporate like chlorine and will remain behind. Heavy metals also do not evaporate. The 48 hour set out will do nothing if the water still contains chemicals and heavy metals. Using either natural spring water ir treated tap water is the way to go.

Bill is right about distilled water. It will eventually make your frogs sick because it is nothing but pure iwater. No minerals or salts that the frogs need for proper hydration and bodily functions. Use soring water or treated tap water. Distilled will leach vitamins, nutrients and electrolytes out of your frogs.

thanks grif. I always forget about chloramine because my city doesn't use it.

[Gnag the nameless]

Update: My friend [The one who lives on a farm and has been at the lake for many more years than I have] says that since it isn't the mating season, my frogs colours will naturally degrade. Is this possible?

[Gnag the nameless]

Update: Please go to my other Thread on the Vivariums section [I couldn't find the help section, sorry >_< I'm new here]. I need help as soon as possible with Gnag.