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    For a drip wall, you need a strong pump, enough tubing to run up the tank and across, a lot of trial and error, and a ridiculous amount of patience....lol one thing to remember, big holes at the end of the run, smaller ones closest to the pump. And save yourself a lot of headace, get 90° plastic elbows to make your bend, it makes the install so much easier.
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    Would you advise running the hose up the middle and spitting left and right, up one side and across, or up both sides and run inwards?
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    Either or will work. Oh, of you can put a ball valve in the run, it will help you control the flow. That is, if you don't have a variable pump. And listen to your pump, it will tell you if your backpressure is too high. It will scream. You want the pump to run like it's not even there.



    Edit: i would probably run it up the middle and t it off.
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    0.0.3 Phyllobates Terribilis 'Mint'
    0.0.3 Dendrobates Tinctorius 'Patricia'
    0.0.5 Dendrobates Leucomelas
    0.0.2 Dendrobates Tinctorius 'Powder Blue'
    0.0.2 Ranitomeya Variabilis 'southern'
    0.0.3 Epipedobates Anthonyi 'zarayunga'
    1.2.0 Phyllobates bicolor
    0.0.3 Dendrobates tinctorius 'azureus'
    0.0.1 Avicularia Avicularia
    0.0.1 Gramastola porteri
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    I think I'd have more even dripping that way. Great! Thank you .
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    I love Cobalts! I just got 2 and am in love already. I have them in temp 10 gal setup until I get their permanent home built. Thinking about doing a 30gal long tank.

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    A 30 long would be great. Are yours juveniles or adults? I love mine too .
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    Mine are juvs. I got them from Joshs Frogs.

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    Heath
    No one can - ever- accuse you of not following proper quarantine procedure

    Thought you might want to take a look at this?
    Store › Folius Enterprises LLC

    Lynn
    Current Collection
    Dendrobates leucomelas - standard morph
    Dendrobates auratus “Costa Rican Green Black"
    Dendrobates auratus "Pena Blanca"
    Dendrobates tinctorius “New River”
    Dendrobates tinctorius "Green Sipaliwini"
    Dendrobates tinctorius “Powder Blue"
    Dendrobates tinctorius "French Guiana Dwarf Cobalt"

    Phyllobates terribilis “Mint”
    Phyllobates terribilis "Orange"
    Phyllobates bicolor "Uraba"

    Oophaga pumilio "Black Jeans"
    Oophaga pumilio "Isla Popa"
    Oophaga pumilio "Bastimentos"
    Oophaga pumilio “Mimbitimbi”
    Oophaga pumilio "Rio Colubre"
    Oophaga pumilio "Red Frog Beach”
    Oophaga pumilio "Rio Branco"
    Oophaga pumilio “Valle del Rey”
    Oophaga pumilio "BriBri"
    Oophaga pumilio "El Dorado"
    Oophaga pumilio "Cristobal"
    Oophaga pumilio "Rambala"

    Oophaga “Vicentei” (blue)

    Oophaga sylvatica "Paru"
    Oophaga sylvatica "Pata Blanca"
    Oophaga histrionica “Redhead”
    Oophaga histrionica "Blue"
    Oophaga lehmanni "Red"
    Oophaga histrionica "Tado"

    Ranitomeya variabilis "Southern"
    Ranitomeya imitator "Varadero"
    Ranitomeya sirensis "Lower Ucayali"
    Ranitomeya vanzolinii

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    Quote Originally Posted by flybyferns View Post
    Heath
    No one can - ever- accuse you of not following proper quarantine procedure

    Thought you might want to take a look at this?
    Store › Folius Enterprises LLC

    Lynn
    Thank you, Lynn!!! It's exactly what I've been looking for! You're my hero!

    Check this out! Of course, I want mine layered, not so flat, with cascading plants too .
    http://another-green-world-2.blogspo...green.html?m=1
    https://m.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10203589094112277&id=1363241107&set =a.1434844115446.2055312.1363241107&source=11&ref= bookmark

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    Quote Originally Posted by Heatheranne View Post
    Thank you, Lynn!!! It's exactly what I've been looking for! You're my hero!

    Check this out! Of course, I want mine layered, not so flat, with cascading plants too .
    Another Green World: Vertical Garden Utilizing Bright Green USA System
    Hi Heath
    They sell dried moss too !!!!! I gotta get me some of that.
    Actually a member posted this information very recently. I can't find the post. There were links to 2 places.
    The are out of branches . I emailed them - have not heard back yet.
    Maybe I'll call today. I'll try to sell some FF advertisement While I'm at it !

    That moss slab backdrop is beautiful. Don't you just love moss ! This will take a very long time to fill in.

    Black Jungle and New England Herpetoculture LLC - Home hs nice sheets moss. They each sell ( I think ) - a different species.
    The one NE Herp sells grows taller. It does well.

    Off today- work has been beastly/out of control
    Making some chilli - yum !
    Lynn
    Current Collection
    Dendrobates leucomelas - standard morph
    Dendrobates auratus “Costa Rican Green Black"
    Dendrobates auratus "Pena Blanca"
    Dendrobates tinctorius “New River”
    Dendrobates tinctorius "Green Sipaliwini"
    Dendrobates tinctorius “Powder Blue"
    Dendrobates tinctorius "French Guiana Dwarf Cobalt"

    Phyllobates terribilis “Mint”
    Phyllobates terribilis "Orange"
    Phyllobates bicolor "Uraba"

    Oophaga pumilio "Black Jeans"
    Oophaga pumilio "Isla Popa"
    Oophaga pumilio "Bastimentos"
    Oophaga pumilio “Mimbitimbi”
    Oophaga pumilio "Rio Colubre"
    Oophaga pumilio "Red Frog Beach”
    Oophaga pumilio "Rio Branco"
    Oophaga pumilio “Valle del Rey”
    Oophaga pumilio "BriBri"
    Oophaga pumilio "El Dorado"
    Oophaga pumilio "Cristobal"
    Oophaga pumilio "Rambala"

    Oophaga “Vicentei” (blue)

    Oophaga sylvatica "Paru"
    Oophaga sylvatica "Pata Blanca"
    Oophaga histrionica “Redhead”
    Oophaga histrionica "Blue"
    Oophaga lehmanni "Red"
    Oophaga histrionica "Tado"

    Ranitomeya variabilis "Southern"
    Ranitomeya imitator "Varadero"
    Ranitomeya sirensis "Lower Ucayali"
    Ranitomeya vanzolinii

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    Heath,

    This is about a month's worth of moss growth. I dried tropical moss ( from BJ) , crushed and sprinkled onto sifted ABG.
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    below:
    BJ moss ( on the left)
    NE Herp moss (on the right)

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    It appears to be two different types of moss ?

    BTW the NE Herp moss is taking foot better then the BJ. The BJ seems to need more moisture? However it's only been since Oct 12'.

    Lynn
    Current Collection
    Dendrobates leucomelas - standard morph
    Dendrobates auratus “Costa Rican Green Black"
    Dendrobates auratus "Pena Blanca"
    Dendrobates tinctorius “New River”
    Dendrobates tinctorius "Green Sipaliwini"
    Dendrobates tinctorius “Powder Blue"
    Dendrobates tinctorius "French Guiana Dwarf Cobalt"

    Phyllobates terribilis “Mint”
    Phyllobates terribilis "Orange"
    Phyllobates bicolor "Uraba"

    Oophaga pumilio "Black Jeans"
    Oophaga pumilio "Isla Popa"
    Oophaga pumilio "Bastimentos"
    Oophaga pumilio “Mimbitimbi”
    Oophaga pumilio "Rio Colubre"
    Oophaga pumilio "Red Frog Beach”
    Oophaga pumilio "Rio Branco"
    Oophaga pumilio “Valle del Rey”
    Oophaga pumilio "BriBri"
    Oophaga pumilio "El Dorado"
    Oophaga pumilio "Cristobal"
    Oophaga pumilio "Rambala"

    Oophaga “Vicentei” (blue)

    Oophaga sylvatica "Paru"
    Oophaga sylvatica "Pata Blanca"
    Oophaga histrionica “Redhead”
    Oophaga histrionica "Blue"
    Oophaga lehmanni "Red"
    Oophaga histrionica "Tado"

    Ranitomeya variabilis "Southern"
    Ranitomeya imitator "Varadero"
    Ranitomeya sirensis "Lower Ucayali"
    Ranitomeya vanzolinii

    http://www.fernsfrogs.com
    https://www.facebook.com/ferns.frogs

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    Quote Originally Posted by deranged chipmunk View Post
    For a drip wall, you need a strong pump, enough tubing to run up the tank and across, a lot of trial and error, and a ridiculous amount of patience....lol one thing to remember, big holes at the end of the run, smaller ones closest to the pump. And save yourself a lot of headace, get 90° plastic elbows to make your bend, it makes the install so much easier.
    Bill , just wondering if you have ever run tubing for a drip wall from a filter -output?
    Current Collection
    Dendrobates leucomelas - standard morph
    Dendrobates auratus “Costa Rican Green Black"
    Dendrobates auratus "Pena Blanca"
    Dendrobates tinctorius “New River”
    Dendrobates tinctorius "Green Sipaliwini"
    Dendrobates tinctorius “Powder Blue"
    Dendrobates tinctorius "French Guiana Dwarf Cobalt"

    Phyllobates terribilis “Mint”
    Phyllobates terribilis "Orange"
    Phyllobates bicolor "Uraba"

    Oophaga pumilio "Black Jeans"
    Oophaga pumilio "Isla Popa"
    Oophaga pumilio "Bastimentos"
    Oophaga pumilio “Mimbitimbi”
    Oophaga pumilio "Rio Colubre"
    Oophaga pumilio "Red Frog Beach”
    Oophaga pumilio "Rio Branco"
    Oophaga pumilio “Valle del Rey”
    Oophaga pumilio "BriBri"
    Oophaga pumilio "El Dorado"
    Oophaga pumilio "Cristobal"
    Oophaga pumilio "Rambala"

    Oophaga “Vicentei” (blue)

    Oophaga sylvatica "Paru"
    Oophaga sylvatica "Pata Blanca"
    Oophaga histrionica “Redhead”
    Oophaga histrionica "Blue"
    Oophaga lehmanni "Red"
    Oophaga histrionica "Tado"

    Ranitomeya variabilis "Southern"
    Ranitomeya imitator "Varadero"
    Ranitomeya sirensis "Lower Ucayali"
    Ranitomeya vanzolinii

    http://www.fernsfrogs.com
    https://www.facebook.com/ferns.frogs

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    Quote Originally Posted by flybyferns View Post
    Bill , just wondering if you have ever run tubing for a drip wall from a filter -output?
    Yup. In fact i am using either a fluval 305 or an eheim 2213 to run the 6 foot drip wall i am building in the 125. I have both fikters, just haven't decided which to use. The key is having some way to control the flow. Most modern canisters can deal with the low flow involved with drip walls and actually make them a better choice in my opinion. They key is controlling flow. Too much and you have a spraybar instead of a drip wall. Too little and you can burn the pump up from excessive backpressure. Canisters are made to handle the back pressure.
    1.0.0 Oophaga Pumilio 'Black Jeans'
    0.0.10 Phyllobates Vittatus
    0.0.3 Phyllobates Terribilis 'Mint'
    0.0.3 Dendrobates Tinctorius 'Patricia'
    0.0.5 Dendrobates Leucomelas
    0.0.2 Dendrobates Tinctorius 'Powder Blue'
    0.0.2 Ranitomeya Variabilis 'southern'
    0.0.3 Epipedobates Anthonyi 'zarayunga'
    1.2.0 Phyllobates bicolor
    0.0.3 Dendrobates tinctorius 'azureus'
    0.0.1 Avicularia Avicularia
    0.0.1 Gramastola porteri
    0.2.0 Canines
    1.0.0 Tabby/Maine Coon Mix
    2.1.0 Genetics Experiments
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    Are you using a ball valve to control your flow/ pressure?

    Quote Originally Posted by deranged chipmunk View Post
    Yup. In fact i am using either a fluval 305 or an eheim 2213 to run the 6 foot drip wall i am building in the 125. I have both fikters, just haven't decided which to use. The key is having some way to control the flow. Most modern canisters can deal with the low flow involved with drip walls and actually make them a better choice in my opinion. They key is controlling flow. Too much and you have a spraybar instead of a drip wall. Too little and you can burn the pump up from excessive backpressure. Canisters are made to handle the back pressure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bdimas View Post
    Are you using a ball valve to control your flow/ pressure?
    I shouldn't need to. Both filters have adjustable flow. The fluval has a valve that controls both intake and output, the eheim has separate valves. K may add another valve in for extra security and to keep the siphon alive on the fluval. They are a pain when there is a low water level.
    1.0.0 Oophaga Pumilio 'Black Jeans'
    0.0.10 Phyllobates Vittatus
    0.0.3 Phyllobates Terribilis 'Mint'
    0.0.3 Dendrobates Tinctorius 'Patricia'
    0.0.5 Dendrobates Leucomelas
    0.0.2 Dendrobates Tinctorius 'Powder Blue'
    0.0.2 Ranitomeya Variabilis 'southern'
    0.0.3 Epipedobates Anthonyi 'zarayunga'
    1.2.0 Phyllobates bicolor
    0.0.3 Dendrobates tinctorius 'azureus'
    0.0.1 Avicularia Avicularia
    0.0.1 Gramastola porteri
    0.2.0 Canines
    1.0.0 Tabby/Maine Coon Mix
    2.1.0 Genetics Experiments
    0.1.0 Bed Bully

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    Quote Originally Posted by flybyferns View Post
    Hi Heath
    They sell dried moss too !!!!! I gotta get me some of that.
    Actually a member posted this information very recently. I can't find the post. There were links to 2 places.
    The are out of branches . I emailed them - have not heard back yet.
    Maybe I'll call today. I'll try to sell some FF advertisement While I'm at it !

    That moss slab backdrop is beautiful. Don't you just love moss ! This will take a very long time to fill in.

    Black Jungle and New England Herpetoculture LLC - Home hs nice sheets moss. They each sell ( I think ) - a different species.
    The one NE Herp sells grows taller. It does well.

    Off today- work has been beastly/out of control
    Making some chilli - yum !
    Lynn
    Awesome, thanks! I really like the branches. I do love live moss. I love how it provides them with a soft carpet.

    My work too! Ugh! Yesterday I was at work until 21:50. Yuck! High acuities. Had to get pulled at 15:00, but it actually ended up nicer than my unit. Had to return to my unit after my pull to finish charting. Long day. The froggies were up and waiting for dinner when I got home. Hopefully this weekend will be nicer.

    Mmm! Chili sounds delicious! We should have come to your house .
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    Quote Originally Posted by flybyferns View Post
    Heath,

    This is about a month's worth of moss growth. I dried tropical moss ( from BJ) , crushed and sprinkled onto sifted ABG.
    Name:  photo 1.jpg
Views: 178
Size:  117.7 KBName:  photo 2.jpg
Views: 196
Size:  147.9 KB

    below:
    BJ moss ( on the left)
    NE Herp moss (on the right)

    Name:  photo 3.jpg
Views: 200
Size:  120.8 KB
    It appears to be two different types of moss ?

    BTW the NE Herp moss is taking foot better then the BJ. The BJ seems to need more moisture? However it's only been since Oct 12'.

    Lynn
    I like the NE moss, it seems to have a brighter green also.
    https://m.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10203589094112277&id=1363241107&set =a.1434844115446.2055312.1363241107&source=11&ref= bookmark

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    Quote Originally Posted by deranged chipmunk View Post
    Yup. In fact i am using either a fluval 305 or an eheim 2213 to run the 6 foot drip wall i am building in the 125. I have both fikters, just haven't decided which to use. The key is having some way to control the flow. Most modern canisters can deal with the low flow involved with drip walls and actually make them a better choice in my opinion. They key is controlling flow. Too much and you have a spraybar instead of a drip wall. Too little and you can burn the pump up from excessive backpressure. Canisters are made to handle the back pressure.
    Thanks Bill!!! These are the things I need to know. I'd like to get it right the first time if possible .
    https://m.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10203589094112277&id=1363241107&set =a.1434844115446.2055312.1363241107&source=11&ref= bookmark

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    That, my dear, is why i preach "test test test, then test some more"
    1.0.0 Oophaga Pumilio 'Black Jeans'
    0.0.10 Phyllobates Vittatus
    0.0.3 Phyllobates Terribilis 'Mint'
    0.0.3 Dendrobates Tinctorius 'Patricia'
    0.0.5 Dendrobates Leucomelas
    0.0.2 Dendrobates Tinctorius 'Powder Blue'
    0.0.2 Ranitomeya Variabilis 'southern'
    0.0.3 Epipedobates Anthonyi 'zarayunga'
    1.2.0 Phyllobates bicolor
    0.0.3 Dendrobates tinctorius 'azureus'
    0.0.1 Avicularia Avicularia
    0.0.1 Gramastola porteri
    0.2.0 Canines
    1.0.0 Tabby/Maine Coon Mix
    2.1.0 Genetics Experiments
    0.1.0 Bed Bully

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    Quote Originally Posted by deranged chipmunk View Post
    That, my dear, is why i preach "test test test, then test some more"
    excellent advice
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