Today I finished getting my WTF new terrarium set up.
He was in a 18-36-12 low eco-terra now I have him in a 18X18X24
But I think I got too bright of CFL bulbs for him.
I read a post about lighting and saw a recommendation that 5000K
was good and you really need to get the repti sun bulbs.
Since he really doesn't need UV like a snake , lizard , turtle does. (correct me if I am wrong)
I looked at the light hood and it said max 25W so that is what I got
2 25 W 5000K bulbs.
after 1 hrs of Bubba being in his new enclosure he was right up at the top next to the light.
I needed to put in a temperature sensor I forgot to in before I put him in
so convenced him to move to one of the plant leaves and after I installed the sensor
I noticed that his pupils were still clamped shut.
So I turned off the light to see if they would open up in a few minutes with just room light.
Ten minutes passed and his pupils were still shut.
So I looked at the package again and it was that the bulb consumed 25W but puts out 60W
holly crud! thats 120W of bright white light!
So I kept the light off for now and I am getting true 25W lights in the AM.
I hope his eyes will recover.
He was exposed for 15-20 min so I don't think too much damage has been done.
I feel so bad but he didn't go into his hide or in between two of the leaves I purposely
if he wanted shade.
I have shown my wife how to change his water and to use only the filtered water not tapwater.
I have a GE smart water system that I use for my aquariums that filter out just about everything
especially chlorine. and I replace the filters every month, Since I get them at a 50% discount.
And how to feed him by putting crickets into the glass bowl from the tubes in the cricket keeper.
That kind of light really shouldn't bother him too much. White's tree frogs are from Australia and Indonesia, so they get quite a bit of sun light in the wild. I have a 25w plant bulb AND a CFL that puts out 100w over my tank. I like the brightness of it. My frogs don't seem to be bothered by it at all. And they sleep most of the time that the light is on so their eyes aren't exposed to as much bright light. A good thing about CFLs too is that they slowly brighten up once you turn them on so the frogs don't get blasted by light.
Hi Louis,
I agree... the light is ok...he was shutting them because of the light....not because the light was hurting him.
He'sleeping in his new his new digs
Simply get plenty of leaves as high up there as possible.
He is really going to enjoy all that height
ie:
I have a double florescent fixture w/2- 40 watt- 6500K over my red eyed tree frogs ( heavily planted )
Plus additional Philips plant bulbs facing the tank that double duty to add a little extra heat.
For bowl feeding. I use a clear glass 'pyrex' type bowl with sides that about 3 1/2 high.
Uneaten crickets should be removed every am and returned to the cricket bin to feed.
Clean the bowl daily w/ hot water/no soap.
Put a couple extra in the first few times you feed so it helps him to get the idea.
You might continue to feed him in the way in which you typically do for a few feedings; just to be sure he eats
I'm so jealous. You're very lucky to get your water filters 1/2 price.
I used to have the NSA set up , I have been meaning to convert it to a GE.
What GE filter do you use? What 'under the sink' model do you like?
Please PM me.....I don't want this/my question to interrupt your thread.
Thanks, Lynn
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Yup, as the ladies have stated, the lighting is just peachy. My 6 white's were under 416w of t5ho lighting. That pretty much equivalent to "filter sunlight". It's funny, what we consider bright really isn't bright at all when comparing to direct sunlight![]()
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0.0.5 Dendrobates Leucomelas
0.0.2 Dendrobates Tinctorius 'Powder Blue'
0.0.2 Ranitomeya Variabilis 'southern'
0.0.3 Epipedobates Anthonyi 'zarayunga'
1.2.0 Phyllobates bicolor
0.0.3 Dendrobates tinctorius 'azureus'
0.0.1 Avicularia Avicularia
0.0.1 Gramastola porteri
0.2.0 Canines
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I guess that I am a newby dad and wan't to protect too much. lol
At about 3" from your lights, it is about half the brightness of a heavily overcast day, or about 1/16 of full on sunlight (depends on the reflectors in your lighting hood a little). Indoor lights put out very little light compared to nature unless you really pile them in there or get so close you're going to burn yourself on them anyways.
Which brings up another point, make sure he can't get too close to the bulbs for an Icarus moment. The should either be raised a couple of inches from the top of the tank or the highest perch should be a couple of inches from the top.
It's great you've provided multiple perches so he can choose how far from the light to be, he should do some self regulation with options like that.
Good to know thanks!.
Here he is after I placed the sensor.
you can see his pupils are clamped shut.
Here here is the entire set up,(sorry I didn't use the flash)
It has the Exo-terra light that the CFL bulbs are a good 2.5 from the top of the enclosure.
So he can't get near the bulbs.
The two lights on the front are 50W ceramic heaters only 1 is used at a time.
What can I say I like having back ups
He seemed a little lost after moving
so I put a rock and his old hide back in and he
made a beeline for it and settled in and started his day time nap.
I will give him a few months on his own before getting a female.
Hopefully the female will like to be out and about more than he does.
He spends the entire day in there.
They are nocturnal, too. Mine sleep all day. I have my light cycle from 530am to 530pm and then have just a red light on from 5:30 till we go to bed, at which point all lights go off. The red is strictly for us to see them because they will wake up and start their day with it, where if it's the white light they refuse to wake up. 5:30 is when I'm done work and its frog care time before I start dinner.
Here is a vid of Bubba getting a little snack in his new diggs.
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