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    ejh805
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    Default Re: Pyxie frog diet

    Quote Originally Posted by demon amphibians View Post
    Your info on the goldfish is incorrect, yes goldfish can be harmful only if you leave them in their water to poop in, when it builds up it creates a toxic environment similar to ammonia. That is why I said to tong feed them because it doesn’t allow the buildup of that acid. It has nothing to do with there skin pigment. And no they are not fatty. Not anything like a mouse. Although too much of anything could be a bad thing. For crawfish, yes they have been known to carry parasites and fungus…. When they are wild caught.... Rule of thumb never feed wild caught anything to C.b frog. But the crawfish that I feed to my frogs are C.B. The frog farms also staple there frogs on crawfish. Crickets pose a much greater threat for parasites when raised in captivity. And also if you think mice are a better diet and safer then fish or crawfish you might wanna do a little more research because you have your facts mixed. I took the advice about the fish/crawfish thing from people who breed and distribute thousands of frogs a year and these people have been doing it for years. But nothing wrong with being cautious. I was a little unsure about the crawfish thing until I saw where and how they were being cultivated. They are a perfect staple for a large frog but they are very expensive. Thats the reason my frogs are stapled on roaches and only get gold fish and crawfish as a treat. Also a mouse once a month as a supplement. To much more then that will make your frog obese and it will develope fatty liver disease.
    I am going to stick to my guns on fish not being safe. The feeders purchased from petstores are often riddled with parasites and not worth the risk.
    Also-
    "Fish such as minnows, goldfish, or rosy reds can be fed to larger species of amphibians.30
    Feeding frozen, thawed fish to amphibians exclusively can lead to thiamine (Vitamin B1)
    deficiency, because both freezing and long-term storage (in fish containing thiaminase
    enzyme) both can destroy thiamine outright. It is better to vary the diet with live fish or avoid
    feeding frozen fish altogether."
    (Source: http://www.aza.org/uploadedFiles/Con...ourceGuide.pdf)

    Because of the vitamin deficiency risk, it is best not to feed frozen/thawed. Unless you breed your own feeder fish, it probably wouldn't be very safe feeding live fish because of the issue with petstore feeders.

    I'm not criticizing anyone who does feed their frogs goldfish and/or crayfish. Just saying it's a risk I wouldn't personally take.

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    demon amphibians
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    You do have a good point. I didn't even bother to research frozen fish. I will only feed live prey.
    Unless you breed your own fish or crayfish or anything else you will never really know what your frog is ingesting.
    But consider if fish and other store bought aquatic feeders are know for parasites, then crickets earth worms and many others carry as well. With that said breeding your own supply is the best way regardless of what it is. I would even consider breeding mice if they weren't so disgusting. I am a dude and i find very few animals disgusting but rodents are definitely one of them.
    I didn't think you were criticizing. I just wanted to enlighten you on my findings. Mice however should also be a concern. Even captive breed are capable of carrying far more parasites and disease then almost anything else you can find in a store that your frog would eat. But remember when buying for the stores your chances of encountering anything is very low. And that goes with most everything. But i have seen stores that i wouldn't ever consider buying from.

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