ornata or cranwelli?

[GrifTheGreat]

I am trying to sell it locally right now, but I did not specifiy on craigslist if it was cranwelli or ornata. I had totally forgot about the ID before. it was something I was never concerned with, but you have to be when selling to breeders.
The store sold it to me as a male C. ornata. hopefully they at least sexed it right!

Check for nuptial pads.

[arielgasca420]

I did and the frog has nupital pads so that was my indication of a male. I just never knew the small physical differences between cranwelli and ornata. Now I know what to look for. I didnt even see the ID responses back in Nov. I had finals approaching and I was off this site for a few weeks. I actually never went back to see that post until now.
I posted a picture of "Muddy Waters" awhile back ago and I think someone had mentioned it may be a cranwelli, but that the picture was not sufficient enough to tell.

[GrifTheGreat]

I did and the frog has nupital pads so that was my indication of a male. I just never knew the small physical differences between cranwelli and ornata. Now I know what to look for. I didnt even see the ID responses back in Nov. I had finals approaching and I was off this site for a few weeks. I actually never went back to see that post until now.
I posted a picture of "Muddy Waters" awhile back ago and I think someone had mentioned it may be a cranwelli, but that the picture was not sufficient enough to tell.

Can you get a shot of the nuptials and post them here? It's not that I'm doubting you, but if he is a he then he is a good sized male. 4" is large for a male. I have a nearly 4" male Cranwelli. He's 1/8" from 4".

[arielgasca420]

yea.I will get a pic tonight. I would love to get a second opinion, to be honest. I have been doing this frog thing for 2 years now and I have learned a substantial amount of information. A lot of the info I got from the pet store I briefly worked at ended up being false, so it is nice to have opinion from true frog experts.
In the first pic it shows 5" from Snout to Vent. he was quite active when I took the picture so it was hard to get it straight

[GrifTheGreat]

yea.I will get a pic tonight. I would love to get a second opinion, to be honest. I have been doing this frog thing for 2 years now and I have learned a substantial amount of information. A lot of the info I got from the pet store I briefly worked at ended up being false, so it is nice to have opinion from true frog experts.
In the first pic it shows 5" from Snout to Vent. he was quite active when I took the picture so it was hard to get it straight

5" is definitely female. Males rarely ever get close to 5". 4.25" would be either or, but most males top out at 3" to 3.75". If you haven't heard a call yet then I can assure you that you have a female.

[Crikey]

A very nice Cranwelli though! love the coloring. Id love to grab him but I live in SoCal

[arielgasca420]

A very nice Cranwelli though! love the coloring. Id love to grab him but I live in SoCal

I can ship him in the spring once the weather warms up. frog+shipping would probably cost about $80 to so cal

[arielgasca420]

These are the only pics I could get and they were extremely blurry

hopefully these are clear enough.