ornata or cranwelli?

[mikesfrogs]

Its a cranwelli

[arielgasca420]

oh darn! I got tricked once again and for the last time by this pet store. At least I know what to look for in the future.
Thanks for the ID Mike!

[mikesfrogs]

No problem.

[DeeDub]

oh darn! I got tricked once again and for the last time by this pet store. At least I know what to look for in the future.
Thanks for the ID Mike!

Oh darn? Sherry and I told you it was a Crannies a long time ago (Nov) when you tried to sell it as Ornate. Here's the link http://www.frogforum.net/sale-trade/...te-pacman.html

[GrifTheGreat]

Not only is that a Cranwelli, but it looks like a female, but appearance can be decieveing. Its a nice Cranwelli.

[arielgasca420]

Oh darn? Sherry and I told you it was a Crannies a long time ago (Nov) when you tried to sell it as Ornate. Here's the link http://www.frogforum.net/sale-trade/...te-pacman.html

I am trying to sell it locally right now, but I did not specifiy on craigslist if it was cranwelli or ornata. I had totally forgot about the ID before. it was something I was never concerned with, but you have to be when selling to breeders.
The store sold it to me as a male C. ornata. hopefully they at least sexed it right!

[GrifTheGreat]

I am trying to sell it locally right now, but I did not specifiy on craigslist if it was cranwelli or ornata. I had totally forgot about the ID before. it was something I was never concerned with, but you have to be when selling to breeders.
The store sold it to me as a male C. ornata. hopefully they at least sexed it right!

Check for nuptial pads.

[arielgasca420]

I did and the frog has nupital pads so that was my indication of a male. I just never knew the small physical differences between cranwelli and ornata. Now I know what to look for. I didnt even see the ID responses back in Nov. I had finals approaching and I was off this site for a few weeks. I actually never went back to see that post until now.
I posted a picture of "Muddy Waters" awhile back ago and I think someone had mentioned it may be a cranwelli, but that the picture was not sufficient enough to tell.

[GrifTheGreat]

I did and the frog has nupital pads so that was my indication of a male. I just never knew the small physical differences between cranwelli and ornata. Now I know what to look for. I didnt even see the ID responses back in Nov. I had finals approaching and I was off this site for a few weeks. I actually never went back to see that post until now.
I posted a picture of "Muddy Waters" awhile back ago and I think someone had mentioned it may be a cranwelli, but that the picture was not sufficient enough to tell.

Can you get a shot of the nuptials and post them here? It's not that I'm doubting you, but if he is a he then he is a good sized male. 4" is large for a male. I have a nearly 4" male Cranwelli. He's 1/8" from 4".