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    fish4all
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    Default Quality feeder food ?'s

    I researched a lot of brands for a long time when my wife wanted to get a dog again. It didn't help that she wanted a bull terrier. So when I finally decided on a dog food it was Diamond Naturals, beef and rice. Now I consider this a quality dog food, at $1 a pound it better be much more nutritious than the grocery store stuff.

    I was just wondering what brands of dog and cat food everyone considers quality food that they would use to feed their roaches and other feeder insects.

    I honestly don't plan on using dog food at all but I have to ask, one for future reference and two in case I find the roaches want more than my current plans for feeding them.

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    Murray of the Deep
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    Quote Originally Posted by fish4all View Post
    I researched a lot of brands for a long time when my wife wanted to get a dog again. It didn't help that she wanted a bull terrier. So when I finally decided on a dog food it was Diamond Naturals, beef and rice. Now I consider this a quality dog food, at $1 a pound it better be much more nutritious than the grocery store stuff.

    I was just wondering what brands of dog and cat food everyone considers quality food that they would use to feed their roaches and other feeder insects.

    I honestly don't plan on using dog food at all but I have to ask, one for future reference and two in case I find the roaches want more than my current plans for feeding them.
    Pedigree would be good for cats Friskie , they are very famous here as dog and cat food and a high quality one.

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    unkempt1
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    I know from time to time people come to this board (and other forums) asking for a roach chow recipe. I've been tweaking mine over the course of the last few months and have found one that seems to work really well. It seems no matter what I put together they eat it (they're roaches for God's sake ) but this one they take to the best, even favoring it over veggies as long as I have water crystals in there too. I still haven't put one together they prefer over fruits, but when I do I'll share that one too! Or start selling it! Well here it is:


    3 parts dog food
    2 parts Cheerios
    1 part soy flour
    1 part dried coconut flakes
    a few dashes of rolled oats (I'll explain below)


    I use a smaller mix of dog food with other proteins to lower the protein content (Cheerios and soy flour are in there to "water it down" but to also add other sources of nourishment). I've read articles about too high of a protein diet increasing their uric acid content, which can cause early colony die-offs and health problems with your dragon. I do admit the jury's still out on how factual this argument is, and I don't want this thread to become a debate on that. I just do it as a precaution.


    The dried coconut flakes serve as a sweetener. I found that when I put that much soy flour in the mix, they wouldn't eat the chow unless it was the only thing in the tub. I want the flour in there for the reason above, so I added the flakes and they've taken a huge interest in it. I use the flakes because my wife was going to throw them out, so this was more out of convenience. You may remember I used to use raisin bran flakes and Nilla wafer crumbles. This is easier as it's in a smaller package.


    Lastly, I use the dashes of rolled oats because its a good filler and it seems to make cleaning the coffee grinder I use to grind everything with easier. Let me know what you think! Try it out and see how yours like it! Share your recipe too if you like, I'd love to use it to see how my roaches like it!

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    fish4all
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    Default Re: Quality feeder food ?'s

    What brand of Dog Food Unkept?

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    unkempt1
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    Default Re: Quality feeder food ?'s

    Quote Originally Posted by fish4all View Post
    What brand of Dog Food Unkept?
    The cheapest kind (or what you already feed your dog)! Let me go back to my post: I "dumb down" the protein content with other non-dog food items. I currently use something called "high performance" dog food from HEB in my chow, which is the prominent non-Walmart version of a grocer in San Antonio.

    I guess your response begs the question, "Why are you concerned with certain brands of dog food?" What are you worried about your roaches eating? Let me know!

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    fish4all
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    I'm not, to be honest but most online articles and most people who write recipe using dog food say high quality dog food so I had to ask.

    Some use too many fillers, some use a lot of preservatives, some use this, others use that. Does it matter, I don't know.

    I am one who will ask a question just to get answers like yours! Knowledge isn't very useful if you take the word of one and stop at that!

    Only real things I can think of is a ton of wheat and corn in cheap dog food. Does it matter to the roaches, most likely not. Will it matter to the frogs and the animals we feed the roaches to, I don't know.

    I don't plan on using dog food. My plan is something like this:
    Egg Layer Mash
    Oatmeal baby cereal
    Pond pellet fish food, because it's the cheapest I have found
    Possible ratios:
    4:1:1
    6:1:2
    8:2:4
    Will have to see what they like best and how they react to different ratios. It might be more baby cereal or a more even ratio but that is my best guess as to what I will likely try.

    But I will admit I may have to add some breakfast cereal to the mix and I like you Rolled oats idea.

    Cheap, quick, easy and full of vitamins, minerals and everything I can think of.

    Gut Load: Haven't decided if I will change a thing yet. If I do I was thinking I would add some brewers yeast to that mix and possibly some honey and/or molasses to make a nice sweet crumble to make sure they load up.

    If I do decide to use dog food, I won't be feeding my dogs food to them! Not at $1+ a pound when I can get other brands for $15 for 40#.

    I guess the biggest reason why I asked is because of what a person might consider a quality dog or cat food. My sister thinks O'l Roy is quality food, my dad, Iams, me, Diamond naturals. If I can have 3 different views from my own family, not to mention the ones from friends, I thought it was a good idea to see what everyone thought of as quality dog/cat food. The best top quality dry dog food I can think of is right around $6.50 a pound. Lowest quality, $0.25 cents a pound. Somewhere in between I hope to get an idea of what is considered "quality". Whether it matters or not, having options and different things to try is never a bad thing.

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