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    That would be google. Lol i spend more time researching various species and biotopes than i do id'ing plants. But if i had to pick one that i use most, it would be exotic angel's website. They are the grower that a lot of the big box stores utilize.
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    0.0.1 Avicularia Avicularia
    0.0.1 Gramastola porteri
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    Are there any plants that can be toxic to my little guys?

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    as far as i know, no. not just by contact with them. if they were to ingest them, then i can think of plenty. good thing they are strict carnivores huh??
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    Calmwaters
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    Thanks Bill.

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    Quote Originally Posted by deranged chipmunk View Post
    as far as i know, no. not just by contact with them. if they were to ingest them, then i can think of plenty. good thing they are strict carnivores huh??
    But how toxic would they be to the frogs if the crickets munched on the plants before the frogs munched on the crickets?

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    Quote Originally Posted by rubu View Post
    But how toxic would they be to the frogs if the crickets munched on the plants before the frogs munched on the crickets?
    That would depend on the plant and how much found it's way into the frog by way of the crickets. You'll probably be hard pressed to find any concrete data on anything like this, but for example it makes sense to avoid feeding your frogs anything that's been devouring toxic plants, like tomato hornworms found on the tomato plant in your garden, or milkweed bugs found on your milkweed.

    I've seen this as an excuse to leave dieffenbachia out of the frog enclosure, but there are also plenty of reports from people using it for years with no issues. It's not a plant I use, as I find Bills advice to keep it out of the reach of furry pets virtually impossible in my case (mine can sense any lapse in plant security and come rushing to eat whatever they can get to), and it's a particular nasty one for cats from my understanding.

    "If in doubt, leave it out" is always a safe motto if you are unsure. There are plenty of extremely well tested options out there that you can err well on the side of caution and still have a plethora of planting options.

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    oh, i definitely agree with Brian, if you are unsure or uncomfortable with a plant, then definitely leave it out. there are SO many plant species out there to choose from, not just the ones we mention here on the forum.

    as for the case of crickets munching on it and poisoning the frog that way, there's no way to answer it except for saying that having crickets running around the enclosure that the frogs haven't eaten, is never really a good thing for the frogs. crickets are nasty and they bite the frogs, which can lead to all sorts of very bad things happening.
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    0.0.5 Dendrobates Leucomelas
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    0.0.2 Ranitomeya Variabilis 'southern'
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    1.2.0 Phyllobates bicolor
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    0.0.1 Avicularia Avicularia
    0.0.1 Gramastola porteri
    0.2.0 Canines
    1.0.0 Tabby/Maine Coon Mix
    2.1.0 Genetics Experiments
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    lynn, these are the plants i ordered from black jungle"
    Cissus amazonica, Mini Aroid Vine, Blechnum brasiliense - Mini Treefern,Rhaphidophora pachyphylla, Sundew - Drosera spatulata 'Frasier Island Form'. i also picked up a peperomina quadrangularis, a peperomia glauca,
    Ficus pumila var. quercifolia - Oak Leaf Creeping Fig, and a few ferns this past sat at city planter
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    0.0.10 Phyllobates Vittatus
    0.0.3 Phyllobates Terribilis 'Mint'
    0.0.3 Dendrobates Tinctorius 'Patricia'
    0.0.5 Dendrobates Leucomelas
    0.0.2 Dendrobates Tinctorius 'Powder Blue'
    0.0.2 Ranitomeya Variabilis 'southern'
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    1.2.0 Phyllobates bicolor
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    0.0.1 Gramastola porteri
    0.2.0 Canines
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    arielgasca420
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    Quote Originally Posted by deranged chipmunk View Post
    That would be google. Lol i spend more time researching various species and biotopes than i do id'ing plants. But if i had to pick one that i use most, it would be exotic angel's website. They are the grower that a lot of the big box stores utilize.

    I use this site called eol.org and it helped me through my plant ID class. I love this site for plants and animals. It doesnt have all the plants and information, but some of them are really good. Plus you can make plant lists and share them with people!

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    arielgasca420
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    Quote Originally Posted by deranged chipmunk View Post
    lynn, these are the plants i ordered from black jungle"
    Cissus amazonica, Mini Aroid Vine, Blechnum brasiliense - Mini Treefern,Rhaphidophora pachyphylla, Sundew - Drosera spatulata 'Frasier Island Form'. i also picked up a peperomina quadrangularis, a peperomia glauca,
    Ficus pumila var. quercifolia - Oak Leaf Creeping Fig, and a few ferns this past sat at city planter
    Nice choice in Drosera! I have D. capensis and it's....not doing so well. I bought it half dead at a nursery that is going out of business and I am using my necromance skills to slowly bring it back to life.

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    thanks ariel. i had planned on doing the 125 as an Australian biotope, but i'm going a different route. the spatulata is a native Australian species and supposedly does well in humidity, so i went with it anyway, even though i'm going with another madagascar tank. close enough though. i wanted a carnivore to help control gnats and such. i'm also trying to decide on a bladderwort as well as a butterwort for the tank.
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    0.0.10 Phyllobates Vittatus
    0.0.3 Phyllobates Terribilis 'Mint'
    0.0.3 Dendrobates Tinctorius 'Patricia'
    0.0.5 Dendrobates Leucomelas
    0.0.2 Dendrobates Tinctorius 'Powder Blue'
    0.0.2 Ranitomeya Variabilis 'southern'
    0.0.3 Epipedobates Anthonyi 'zarayunga'
    1.2.0 Phyllobates bicolor
    0.0.3 Dendrobates tinctorius 'azureus'
    0.0.1 Avicularia Avicularia
    0.0.1 Gramastola porteri
    0.2.0 Canines
    1.0.0 Tabby/Maine Coon Mix
    2.1.0 Genetics Experiments
    0.1.0 Bed Bully

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    Quote Originally Posted by arielgasca420 View Post
    I use this site called eol.org and it helped me through my plant ID class. I love this site for plants and animals. It doesnt have all the plants and information, but some of them are really good. Plus you can make plant lists and share them with people!
    i will check this out later tonight,or tomorrow. ok, i'll be honest, i will check it out eventually....Lol

    i forgot to mention, i ordered 2 orchids that i am having shipped on monday aerangis luteo alba v. rhodosticta and aerangis citrata
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    0.0.5 Dendrobates Leucomelas
    0.0.2 Dendrobates Tinctorius 'Powder Blue'
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    Quote Originally Posted by deranged chipmunk View Post
    thanks ariel. i had planned on doing the 125 as an Australian biotope, but i'm going a different route. the spatulata is a native Australian species and supposedly does well in humidity, so i went with it anyway, even though i'm going with another madagascar tank. close enough though. i wanted a carnivore to help control gnats and such. i'm also trying to decide on a bladderwort as well as a butterwort for the tank.
    The bladderworts wouldnt catch the gnats though. It catches insects and eggs under the water, right?
    I would invest in a butterwort. that will definitely help your gnat problem.

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    There are both terrestrial and submersed bladderworts. One of the submersible ones being utricularia gramminifolia (i probably really butchered that...lol) we call it ug in the planted tank world. In fact, probably about 85% of the people who have it, don't know it can be grown emersed as well as submerged.
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    0.1.0 Bed Bully

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    this site rocks!! i wasted about 2 hours on it the other night....LOL
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    0.0.1 Gramastola porteri
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    Quote Originally Posted by deranged chipmunk View Post
    There are both terrestrial and submersed bladderworts. One of the submersible ones being utricularia gramminifolia (i probably really butchered that...lol) we call it ug in the planted tank world. In fact, probably about 85% of the people who have it, don't know it can be grown emersed as well as submerged.
    I was reading that these can be terrestials but wouldn't it have to be extremely humid? almost aquatic conditions?

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    for some, yes. but a dart tank is close enough. for others, 70+% RH will work. they grow in bogs, so they make nice, pretty marginals.
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    Guess who just received a lovely package from black jungle? This guy!!! I'll take pics after work before i plant
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