Is this dwarf or giant bull frog?

[Benjamin Z]

Guys, I orderd one africa bull frog from my local pet store. When I saw it, I found it looks a little bit weird. The color is more dark than regular bullfrog. Do you guys know what the differences between dwarf and regular? I am worried it is a dwarf one. BTW, sorry for the unclear picture.

[DeeDub]

Dwarf.

Take it back and get your money back.

[GrifTheGreat]

DeeDub is right. 100% Dwarf.

[Benjamin Z]

thanks for your help. They charged me 40 for this one!! WTF

[Benjamin Z]

thanks too.

[NatureLady]

I love when this forum auto corrects WhatTHEf*** as Whites Tree Frog.

Take it back for sure!

[Wicked frogs]

It is 100% dwarf if you were told it was a giant then take it back but i have a dwarf and they sure are pretty, and cool.

[Benjamin Z]

It is 100% dwarf if you were told it was a giant then take it back but i have a dwarf and they sure are pretty, and cool.

man see u again, you always help me..LOL . I love dwarf as well, but what pissed me off is that sealar told me that is regular one and charged me as same as the regular bullfrog's price.

[sschind]

man see u again, you always help me..LOL . I love dwarf as well, but what pissed me off is that sealar told me that is regular one and charged me as same as the regular bullfrog's price.

Did you specify you wanted a P. adspersus and not just a "regular one" Most wholesale lists simply say "African Bullfrog" and to be honest I'm not sure that all that many stores know there are different kinds much less know the difference. Also, how do you know the price for the "regular one" is not the same price as the dwarf? If he told you it was the one that gets huge then yeah you should be able to get your money back but if all he said was its a "regular one" maybe not.

I'm sure that when people order an African Bullfrog they usually want P. adspersus but it is important to make sure anyone ordering them also knows and knows the difference.

I had a customer get all ticked off at another pet store because the 'Mini Dragon" he bought turned out to be simply a baby bearded. He wanted a P. henrylawsoni and the guy at the store had no idea that there was such a thing as a "mini dragon" He just figured his baby P. vitticeps was what the guy meant by "mini"

Hopefully you can get a refund but I wouldn't be too surprised, if it was a special order, if they offer you a credit instead.

Whenever I do a special order I try to get as specific as possible and if someone asks me to order something by a common name I have never heard of I won't do it unless they can give me a scientific name. If you think its bad with frogs you should see the fish side of it.

[DeeDub]

The Edelis are attractive animals as well. Maybe just enjoy him, but you need to give the pet store a rash of $hit (<<<坏话) for being stupid. I don't know what the circumstances are, but it sounds like an honest dumb mistake on the part of someone. If I owned a store I'd do a little research on what the customer wanted before just ordering and ending up with an unhappy customer. I'd also want to know if I screwed up so as to make it right with my patron.

That is funny that it changes it to whites tree frog. I say we just start using it as an expetive i.e. This whites tree frog pet shop is whites tree frog stupid!...lol

[Benjamin Z]

Guys, I talked to that pet store today. At first he still told me that one is giant bull frog. After I told him I am pretty sure this one is a dwarf rather than giant one, then he admited this is not the one what I want. S u c ks .. he is a completely profiteer! But the good thing is he promised to give me another one.

[Wicked frogs]

That's awesome so now you are gonna have a dwarf and a giant?

[Benjamin Z]

The giant one. But the dwarf bull frog is cute as well, I might bring them both to home.~ ~!

[Lija]

go for it! the only thing better then to keep one frog is to keep 2

[Bruce]

The dwarfs don't eat as much, that's one good thing!

[aluras]

Im pretty new to african bullfrogs, Im wondering, is there a sure way to tell the differance? between Pyxicephalus edulis and pyxicephalus adspersus I saw this thread and hoped it would say something about it. I recently recieed one locally and it is small but i just was wondering which it was. any help would be great.
~Aaron

[DeeDub]

Baby adspersus (Giants) have three neon green stripes on their backs. One straight down the middle and two that exte.d diagonally from just behind what is the shoulder back and down towards the side of the frogs belly. These lines all fade on the giants for the most part. If the giants do retai. The diagonal stripes they turn white. The giants are generally more green as well. The Edulis tend to be brown and have a cream colored dorsal stripe that they retain to adulthood. As I said, 99% of giants' dorsal stripes fade as they grow. Both species have a mottled camo pattern as youngsters, but whereas the giants fade to a generally solid green to olive drab, the Edulis retain the mottled pattern until adulthood.

Look up Pyxicephalus Adspersus (Giant) as well as P. Edulis (dwarf) on Google images for a comparison and education of what to look for. Notice that the Edulis usually have a softer, cartoon character look with high set, large eyes. MOST Adspersus have smaller eyes and look more "wise"...??...lol. sorry...once you see the differences it is easy to spot a dwarf/giant. Its Def not easy to describe "the look" of the giants.

I reccomend getting the e-book Giant African Bullfrog: Life History and Captive Husbandry (Phillipe de Vasjoli 2012)

Hope this helps.

[aluras]

sure does, Ill take it all in and make a decision. I may still post a pic for comformation on my thoughts. Id like to know what im doing in the end. thanks so much

[DeeDub]

You bet. Here is a guy selling GABF on Faunaclassifieds.com.

For Sale CBB Giant Pixie Frogs - Pyxicephalus Adspersus - Export available - FaunaClassifieds

He's reputable.

I would also recommend LLL reptile supply.
Animals

There are a bunch of adds on Kingsnake.com. You'll have to research the distributors (companies) on the Faunaclassifieds board of inquiry (BOI). It's usually pretty reliable as far as a persons rep goes, but is not the end all be all for what a dealer will do. You can have a bad experience with a good guy, and a good experience with a bad guy (both good guy and bad guy are referring to how the BOI rates sellers/buyers).

If you see something, post it up and we'll get back to you on what you are looking at.

[DeeDub]

go for it! the only thing better then to keep one frog is to keep 2

or 10/20/21.5