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    I've had two fire bellied toads for about a few years. One of them has become very big within the last month. His throat is bloated and he hasn't been eating or moving much. A few weeks ago I drove about an hour to take him to the vet and by the time I got there, a lot of his bloating was gone. They checked him and said they couldn't find anything wrong. Well when I got him home he got big again. I have never had any issues before this and would just like some input on what I should do. Thanks!

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    Have there been any recent changes made? Could he have accidentally swallowed a piece of that gravel while feeding? cause if he did he could be impacted
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    Or maybe is water in the tank to dirty and he is toxing out? That might explain why swelling went down when he was out of tank and re occurred when you put him back?
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    Quote Originally Posted by lauraandrew06 View Post
    I've had two fire bellied toads for about a few years. One of them has become very big within the last month. His throat is bloated and he hasn't been eating or moving much. A few weeks ago I drove about an hour to take him to the vet and by the time I got there, a lot of his bloating was gone. They checked him and said they couldn't find anything wrong. Well when I got him home he got big again. I have never had any issues before this and would just like some input on what I should do. Thanks!

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    What does he eat??

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    Thanks for the replies. I usually just feed them crickets. I've fed them mealworms probably only two times since I've gotten them, but I've read that it's not really good to feed them mealworms so I stopped. I've been cleaning out their tank every day since he got bloated. I thought he might have swallowed a rock too, but I figured that the vet would have told me if he did. I just moved him into his own tank so I'll just keep watching him to see if anything changes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lauraandrew06 View Post
    Thanks for the replies. I usually just feed them crickets. I've fed them mealworms probably only two times since I've gotten them, but I've read that it's not really good to feed them mealworms so I stopped. I've been cleaning out their tank every day since he got bloated. I thought he might have swallowed a rock too, but I figured that the vet would have told me if he did. I just moved him into his own tank so I'll just keep watching him to see if anything changes.
    What kind of water do you use?


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    Quote Originally Posted by lauraandrew06 View Post
    Thanks for the replies. I usually just feed them crickets. I've fed them mealworms probably only two times since I've gotten them, but I've read that it's not really good to feed them mealworms so I stopped. I've been cleaning out their tank every day since he got bloated. I thought he might have swallowed a rock too, but I figured that the vet would have told me if he did. I just moved him into his own tank so I'll just keep watching him to see if anything changes.
    touch his belly tell us if you feel a lump.if it has then it's constipated, he might have swallowed a rock , rocks are serious death to amphibs.

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    No lumps and I use tap water mixed with water conditioner to get rid of the chlorine.

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    I'm taking him back to the vet tomorrow so hopefully this time they can tell me what's wrong with him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lauraandrew06 View Post
    I'm taking him back to the vet tomorrow so hopefully this time they can tell me what's wrong with him.
    I use cycled water to be more safe to my fbts,and I think it's a bloat or air do you keep him indoors like in your room , if it is do you have an air conditioner in the room?

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    I have him in my living room without an air conditioner. I'll have to try the cycled water and see if that helps any. My vet said he has enema and gave me some solution to soak him in and baytril to squirt on his back twice a day. I hope the sweling starts to go down soon!

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    Quote Originally Posted by lauraandrew06 View Post
    I have him in my living room without an air conditioner. I'll have to try the cycled water and see if that helps any. My vet said he has enema and gave me some solution to soak him in and baytril to squirt on his back twice a day. I hope the sweling starts to go down soon!
    Dont make ammonia too high on the water or it would cause your toad to act weird like mine! and hope my toad and your toad gets well soon.

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    Does anyone know how long a fbt stays bloated for when they are shedding? I just pulled something long and slimy off of him.. I think he could be shedding but hes been bloated for over a month.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lauraandrew06 View Post
    Does anyone know how long a fbt stays bloated for when they are shedding? I just pulled something long and slimy off of him.. I think he could be shedding but hes been bloated for over a month.
    It only takes a frog a few minutes to shed and bloated for a month means that something is wrong. Could be a bacterial infection or something causing an Osmotic imbalance. Maybe even Edema. Even parasites can cause bloating. Is it a hard or soft bloat? Does it feel like fluid or air?


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    My vet said it was probably edema but when I soaked him in the solution she gave me, the swelling didn't go down. She gave me some antibiotics for parasites too just in case. It is soft bloat, probably retaining too much water. She said something about maybe kidney disease, but I am definitely hoping that isn't the case

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    Quote Originally Posted by lauraandrew06 View Post
    My vet said it was probably edema but when I soaked him in the solution she gave me, the swelling didn't go down. She gave me some antibiotics for parasites too just in case. It is soft bloat, probably retaining too much water. She said something about maybe kidney disease, but I am definitely hoping that isn't the case
    Try the antibiotics and see if they help


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    I had to put him to sleep today I woke up this morning and he had this large bubble hanging about an inch out of his mouth. He is in a much better place now. Thank you to everyone who replied on here. I really appreciate it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lauraandrew06 View Post
    I had to put him to sleep today I woke up this morning and he had this large bubble hanging about an inch out of his mouth. He is in a much better place now. Thank you to everyone who replied on here. I really appreciate it.
    I'm very sorry for your loss.


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