New to forum and frogs

[StephenLS]

If you can get hold of them you could try a species of Reed Frog! They are quite small however, and whilst you may see them resting during the day they are primarily nocturnal.

Also they require small food e.g. flies/small crickets and the chances are if these fell into the water your fish would enjoy them too!

[Kurt]

Keep in mind any frog that feeds upon live insects needs to be fed out the enclosure if that enclosure also houses fish. In this respect, White's, green, gray, and barking treefrogs will be the easiest choices to care for.

Bombina bombina are generally not available on this side of the "pond", but Bombina orientalis is and in my opinion, they much more attractive. Also, feed this species out side of its enclosure too. And keep in mind that fire-bellied toads are quite toxic. If Bombina are known to eat fish, then I would pass on them in this situation.

Reeds may be problematic in this situation as then generally feed on smaller prey items, such as fruit flies. Fruit flies are capable of scaling the side of any Rubbermaid or Sterlite box, so what ever box you use to feed them in needs to be escape proof for these minute insects.

For the most part all the frogs listed above are usually only available as wild caught specimens. That itself can present problems for the beginner. Wild caught animals need to be treated for GI parasites and that involves a vet visit. So, when it comes down to it, I see two paths you can choose from. One, get CB White's treefrogs or two, buy CB barking treefrogs available from Salty City. A third possiblity is John mentioned he was going to try and breed his gray treefrogs this spring. Maybe you can get some from him, but that would be several months from now.

[cjacob316]

i like the firebellies, and the fish i think i would keep if i do, would be catfish, so i might lose the frog before i lose the fish. i might nix the fish idea, and just do fire bellies, i still think i'd prefer a full water bottom with some ledges and vines, because i think it would be easier to clean, but feeding seems problematic

thanks for all the help guys, been great, obviously i think i need to do a lot of research before jumping in