HELP ASAP! Pippin isn't moving!

[UncleChester]

Hi Rae,

Sorry to hear about Pippins troubles. I don't really have much to add, but was there any chance he was trying to hibernate (and still is)? Cooler temperatures, less light, and lower humidity can kick this off, and it's possible to have one trying to hibernate before the others do. They can be pretty uncoordinated if woken early from this.

There are a few vets in Toronto claiming experience in exotic pets that you've probably already found. You can get down there without hitting a 400 series highway if you stick to less major roads but it would probably add at least an hour each way. This might still be worth it

Contacting Dr Frye might still be a good idea for advice.

Good luck, and I hope Pippin improves.

[GrifTheGreat]

Everyone has come up with very possible ailements that could be affecting you little guy. Uncle Chester has mentioned one I didn't think of and that is the frog trying to brumate. He is definitely right that waking them early can cause all kinds of problems. They can even go into shock and pass away, but that is near instant. Warm baths would bring him out of Brumation/hybernation. Especially electrolyte soaks.

One serious issue with hybernation is that if they try to do so on a full stomach the food will not digest due to a very slow metabolism and begin to rot in his gut causing him to become septic. Bloating is also caused by this sort of infection. Even so for something this bad a Vet is needed. I wish there was more help I could provide from here, but its difficult when you cannot see with your own eyes how the frog is behaving and the symptoms of what is ailing him.

Pleases keep us posted. I hope that he pulls through.

[Rae]

Pippin is gone T_T He wasn't moving, breathing, blinking nothing this morning. his stomach looked off in colour redish under the skin from inside that wasn't there last night.

My husband had first said it was time to flush (not sure if he was joking hard to tell with him) but I convinced him to dig a hole in the front garden for him under a bush. He wont be disturbed there as we don't plant anything, there is only a bush there. I laid him to rest outside about 20 min ago.

Thank you for all the advise anyways I have sanitized the large enclosure with vinegar/water solution where Frodo, Sam and Merry are. Hopefully we moved Pippin out into quarantine quick enough not to cause another loss.