Pacmans up for sale now....

[DeeDub]

If you missed out on the 60 bucks thats unfortunate. I know a guy that got one for the 60 and luckily hes experienced. It was hard to get to eat to start off. I bought two from mike at his asking price and both ate immediately from tongs. It was worth it IMO and I did do a transaction with Mike. 100-200 is fair for bi and tri colored Cornuta.

[Herpguy]

I hope my two cents is not beating a dead horse here...

Anyways, dealing reptiles and amphibians is a very hard way to make a living, and I commend anybody who makes it through honest business and providing the herp hobby with what we want. Mike is very much in the right to market these frogs in this way. He recognized an opportunity and jumped on it. How can he build a business by any other method? This cannot be "price gouging" because this is a product that nobody "needs," and people will readily pay this price for something that is very much a novelty. I would not have been surprised to see them up for more, considering the work he has put into them.

Also, what Mike has stated about how one wholesaler can ruin the hobby is very true. I had seen this happen when I dealt mantids. Within a few years, $30 mantids became $3 on the market due to the fact of every kid breeding them and trying to get rid of them fast. This has happened to a [somewhat lesser] degree in the tarantula hobby.

There is no need to ever criticize somebody in this hobby for prices. If the prices are too high, you do not need to pay it to survive, and can look somewhere else. If you are complaining about the price, it's because you want to buy that animal, and you don't have enough in your pocket.

[DeeDub]

Its still alive.....beat it some more! Lol

[Sunshine]

[motiszm]

"This has happened to a [somewhat lesser] degree in the tarantula hobby."

Once you lock in the breeding of a spider that lays 500+ eggs per sac, and have a high rate of success rearing the slings, prices are going to come down sooner or later, especially if everyone figures out how to do it. The same thing would happen to frogs if they weren't so hard to breed for most people. It's the nature of the game, this business is an interesting one in that breeders sell to and create their competition.