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    ejh805
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    Default Building a false bottom

    Hey guys,

    So, I had to completely disassemble my pixies tank last night. The bottom cracked length and width-wise.
    In stead of going out and buying a completely new tank, could I save about $90 by having some thick, strong plexi-glass cut to the same measurements as the floor and then sealing it in place on top of the existing bottom?
    I made a stupid mistake my using a too-small stand for my tank, placing all the pressure on the glass. I'm going to be correcting that as well.

    Here are pics showing the cracks. Sorry if they're kinda hard to see.

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    Hi Emily,
    Sorry, what a shame.
    Just a thought.
    Another member recently that Petco is having a dollar/gallon tank sale?

    Consider completely rinsing the rest of the substrate out. Dry it really well ( no water should be there).
    Then put another heavy coat of Aquarium sealant down - expanding over the the area/ overlapping what you have already done.

    I don't know how big this tank is ? But for a dollar a gallon, you might spend more on aquarium sealant than on a new tank as you will be needing a lot to ensure it will not leak after all your hard work.

    Lynn
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    Dendrobates tinctorius “New River”
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    Dendrobates tinctorius “Powder Blue"
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    Phyllobates terribilis "Orange"
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    Oophaga histrionica "Tado"

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    ejh805
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    Default Re: Building a false bottom

    Lynn,

    Thank you for the advice. I'll try that.
    And unfortunately, there isn't a Petco within 300 miles of me
    As for size, it's a 40 gallon breeder.

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    That is such a shame. You should check craigslist or other local classifieds for tanks too. It might save you money in the long run. I can't believe you're so far away from a Petco... they're everywhere up here!

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    A couple things, no that it matters, but petco won't be having that sale until after the new year. Secondly, if that were just 1 crack i would suggest a piece of plexi siliconed in on top of the existing glass. But yours broke into 3 pieces and that is a different story, structurally speaking. I would suggest, at the bare minimum, sandwiching the cracked glass between 2 sheets of plexi. If you plan on building a false bottom, then plexi inside and 3/8" lexan on the bottom. Lexan is stronger than plexi. With the false bottom, you are going to be dealing with much more weight. .better be safe than sorry.
    1.0.0 Oophaga Pumilio 'Black Jeans'
    0.0.10 Phyllobates Vittatus
    0.0.3 Phyllobates Terribilis 'Mint'
    0.0.3 Dendrobates Tinctorius 'Patricia'
    0.0.5 Dendrobates Leucomelas
    0.0.2 Dendrobates Tinctorius 'Powder Blue'
    0.0.2 Ranitomeya Variabilis 'southern'
    0.0.3 Epipedobates Anthonyi 'zarayunga'
    1.2.0 Phyllobates bicolor
    0.0.3 Dendrobates tinctorius 'azureus'
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    0.0.1 Gramastola porteri
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    Bill,

    Thank you.
    I think maybe I used the term "false bottom" incorrectly. I meant it just as what you described in the first one without the lexan.
    I just need a way to make it so the bottom wont fall out. It still seems like it is tightly in place (no pieces shifting etc). Do you think I could clean and dry it out, place a layer of sealant on top, then place some plexi on top of the sealant? Then underneath, do the same thing? OR is that overkill?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ejh805 View Post
    Lynn,

    Thank you for the advice. I'll try that.
    And unfortunately, there isn't a Petco within 300 miles of me
    As for size, it's a 40 gallon breeder.
    Oh , sorry . That's a nice big tank. It's worth fixing.
    "300 miles" ....... sounds nice and peaceful!
    I guess patch it up and do a nice ..............long water test.
    I'm sure you know you have to wait at least 48 hours ( read instruction to be sure) before adding water.
    Lynn
    Current Collection
    Dendrobates leucomelas - standard morph
    Dendrobates auratus “Costa Rican Green Black"
    Dendrobates auratus "Pena Blanca"
    Dendrobates tinctorius “New River”
    Dendrobates tinctorius "Green Sipaliwini"
    Dendrobates tinctorius “Powder Blue"
    Dendrobates tinctorius "French Guiana Dwarf Cobalt"

    Phyllobates terribilis “Mint”
    Phyllobates terribilis "Orange"
    Phyllobates bicolor "Uraba"

    Oophaga pumilio "Black Jeans"
    Oophaga pumilio "Isla Popa"
    Oophaga pumilio "Bastimentos"
    Oophaga pumilio “Mimbitimbi”
    Oophaga pumilio "Rio Colubre"
    Oophaga pumilio "Red Frog Beach”
    Oophaga pumilio "Rio Branco"
    Oophaga pumilio “Valle del Rey”
    Oophaga pumilio "BriBri"
    Oophaga pumilio "El Dorado"
    Oophaga pumilio "Cristobal"
    Oophaga pumilio "Rambala"

    Oophaga “Vicentei” (blue)

    Oophaga sylvatica "Paru"
    Oophaga sylvatica "Pata Blanca"
    Oophaga histrionica “Redhead”
    Oophaga histrionica "Blue"
    Oophaga lehmanni "Red"
    Oophaga histrionica "Tado"

    Ranitomeya variabilis "Southern"
    Ranitomeya imitator "Varadero"
    Ranitomeya sirensis "Lower Ucayali"
    Ranitomeya vanzolinii

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    ejh805
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    I found 1 store that sells plexiglass.
    But it's only 1/16th of an inch, and the measurements are 36x72in.
    Which means I could cut 1 sheet into 4, layer those on top of each other, and have 1/4 inch...

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    That would work. And it would actually be stronger because it would be laminated.
    1.0.0 Oophaga Pumilio 'Black Jeans'
    0.0.10 Phyllobates Vittatus
    0.0.3 Phyllobates Terribilis 'Mint'
    0.0.3 Dendrobates Tinctorius 'Patricia'
    0.0.5 Dendrobates Leucomelas
    0.0.2 Dendrobates Tinctorius 'Powder Blue'
    0.0.2 Ranitomeya Variabilis 'southern'
    0.0.3 Epipedobates Anthonyi 'zarayunga'
    1.2.0 Phyllobates bicolor
    0.0.3 Dendrobates tinctorius 'azureus'
    0.0.1 Avicularia Avicularia
    0.0.1 Gramastola porteri
    0.2.0 Canines
    1.0.0 Tabby/Maine Coon Mix
    2.1.0 Genetics Experiments
    0.1.0 Bed Bully

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