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    I was cleaning out the water feature in my pixie tank and the bottom cracked.
    I panicked and removed all the water and got it completely dry. Put sealant on the crack and went to grab something to divide the land from the water in the tank so that the pixie could stay in the tank and be safe from getting in the sealant before it dried. All the while, s/he's sitting in his/her back corner of the tank in the little burrow it's made. I left for maybe 10 seconds, and thought s/he'd stay where s/he was. God was I wrong... came back and s/he decided to jump into where the water used to be. Smack on top of the wet sealant. I know people arent supposed to let their bare hands touch it so I cannot imagine what it'll do to my frog. It only got on his/her front right foot. I immediately ran the foot under water and tried to get off as much as possible. S/he's now soaking in a honey bath and it looks like s/he's shedding?? Will my frog be okay or do I need to look into going to a vet?? Right now s/he's acting feisty and fine, but it's only been a couple of minutes.
    Please help! I don't know if my panic is warranted but I don't want to under react either

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    Quote Originally Posted by ejh805 View Post
    I was cleaning out the water feature in my pixie tank and the bottom cracked.
    I panicked and removed all the water and got it completely dry. Put sealant on the crack and went to grab something to divide the land from the water in the tank so that the pixie could stay in the tank and be safe from getting in the sealant before it dried. All the while, s/he's sitting in his/her back corner of the tank in the little burrow it's made. I left for maybe 10 seconds, and thought s/he'd stay where s/he was. God was I wrong... came back and s/he decided to jump into where the water used to be. Smack on top of the wet sealant. I know people arent supposed to let their bare hands touch it so I cannot imagine what it'll do to my frog. It only got on his/her front right foot. I immediately ran the foot under water and tried to get off as much as possible. S/he's now soaking in a honey bath and it looks like s/he's shedding?? Will my frog be okay or do I need to look into going to a vet?? Right now s/he's acting feisty and fine, but it's only been a couple of minutes.
    Please help! I don't know if my panic is warranted but I don't want to under react either
    I would be sure that the skin that had the sealant on it does not get ingested. Keep him/her in the bath for a while and make sure you keep a close eye on him/her. Be sure you have a Vet on hand incase something changes.

    Now I have to ask why you were using a sealant while the frog was in the enclosure? Sealants like silicone release toxic fumes that can and will kill the frog. People make mistakes, but you must use better judgement. Let this be a learning experience for you and try and remain calm.

    Keep an eye on him and do your best to not allow him/her to ingest any of the sealant. Keep him/her in a separate enclosure while the sealant cures.

    Keep me posted.


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    and Grif was faster again he got you covered. in a future never ever do anything with sealant in the same room where are animals, not just frogs, anyone live, you have to do it in a well ventilated area, it is bad for you too.
    Save one animal and it doesn't change the world, but it surely changes the world for that one animal!

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    Thank you so much Grif and Lija.

    I'll be putting my pixie in a spare 29 in my snake/roach room, safely away from the fumes from the sealant.
    I was panicked over the leak (we are on the 2nd floor of an apartment), and didn't think straight.

    Grif, it doesn't look like the frog is trying to eat the shed at all. Seems more occupied with trying to jump out of the honey bath.
    I will keep you posted.

    *there's an emergency vet that deals with phibs and herps about 2 miles from me so I'll call her if things go south*
    Last edited by ejh805; November 30th, 2012 at 07:50 PM. Reason: info

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    I hope all turns out well for your frog Emily, I wish I could be more helpful.

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    Thank you, Pluke.
    I hope so too....

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    Quote Originally Posted by ejh805 View Post
    I was cleaning out the water feature in my pixie tank and the bottom cracked.
    I panicked and removed all the water and got it completely dry. Put sealant on the crack and went to grab something to divide the land from the water in the tank so that the pixie could stay in the tank and be safe from getting in the sealant before it dried. All the while, s/he's sitting in his/her back corner of the tank in the little burrow it's made. I left for maybe 10 seconds, and thought s/he'd stay where s/he was. God was I wrong... came back and s/he decided to jump into where the water used to be. Smack on top of the wet sealant. I know people arent supposed to let their bare hands touch it so I cannot imagine what it'll do to my frog. It only got on his/her front right foot. I immediately ran the foot under water and tried to get off as much as possible. S/he's now soaking in a honey bath and it looks like s/he's shedding?? Will my frog be okay or do I need to look into going to a vet?? Right now s/he's acting feisty and fine, but it's only been a couple of minutes.
    Please help! I don't know if my panic is warranted but I don't want to under react either
    Emily,
    Yikes,I'm so sorry. I'm sure you feel terrible.
    Can you call the vet?
    The vet might be able to recommend something-medicinally-that you could give to your frog that could help frog's body detoxify it's exposure to the sealant.
    It's nasty stuff.
    It's NOT water soluble! You can't "wash" it off.
    It might be best to literally rub off as much as possible.
    Use lots of clean pieces of gauze or clean fabric discarding each one after each swipe.
    Lynn
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    Quote Originally Posted by flybyferns View Post
    Emily,
    Yikes,I'm so sorry. I'm sure you feel terrible.
    Can you call the vet?
    The vet might be able to recommend something-medicinally-that you could give to your frog that could help frog's body detoxify it's exposure to the sealant.
    It's nasty stuff.
    It's NOT water soluble! You can't "wash" it off.
    It might be best to literally rub off as much as possible.
    Use lots of clean pieces of gauze or clean fabric discarding each one after each swipe.
    Lynn
    That's a good idea Lynn.


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    Lynn, I tried this and I think I have excellent news.
    I've gotten this sealant on my hands before so I know what it feels like against the skin when trying to get it off with water and there's only a thin layer left, like there's a little bit of traction.
    Well, I think that maybe since the frog was already kind of wet and coated in substrate, that the silicone didn't stick to him/her. I didn't feel any traction when holding onto him/her where the sealant would have gotten. When first trying to wash the stuff off, I had never felt under the front feet of the pixie before (handle him VERY little), and I felt that traction and I thought his/her foot had gotten it on the bottom.
    Going back that second time to try your suggestion, I noticed that all of his/her feet have that. And no where else feels like it would if there were sealant. Still taking precautions with wiping and soaks though. Also the wet sealant in the tank where s/he landed is smooth, no marks where it looks like it stuck to something.
    Please let me know what ya'll think.

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    She/he'll be fine. No need to compound the situation by panicking. Just monitor closely.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ejh805 View Post
    Lynn, I tried this and I think I have excellent news.
    I've gotten this sealant on my hands before so I know what it feels like against the skin when trying to get it off with water and there's only a thin layer left, like there's a little bit of traction.
    Well, I think that maybe since the frog was already kind of wet and coated in substrate, that the silicone didn't stick to him/her. I didn't feel any traction when holding onto him/her where the sealant would have gotten. When first trying to wash the stuff off, I had never felt under the front feet of the pixie before (handle him VERY little), and I felt that traction and I thought his/her foot had gotten it on the bottom.
    Going back that second time to try your suggestion, I noticed that all of his/her feet have that. And no where else feels like it would if there were sealant. Still taking precautions with wiping and soaks though. Also the wet sealant in the tank where s/he landed is smooth, no marks where it looks like it stuck to something.
    Please let me know what ya'll think.
    Hi Emily,
    That's good to hear?
    Let me know how thing go.
    Lynn
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    Dendrobates auratus “Costa Rican Green Black"
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    Dendrobates tinctorius "Green Sipaliwini"
    Dendrobates tinctorius “Powder Blue"
    Dendrobates tinctorius "French Guiana Dwarf Cobalt"

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    Phyllobates terribilis "Orange"
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    Just an update, nothing seems to be wrong. S/he ate a huge meal this morning and has been acting normally.

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    Glad to hear it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ejh805 View Post
    Just an update, nothing seems to be wrong. S/he ate a huge meal this morning and has been acting normally.
    Quote Originally Posted by Pluke View Post
    Glad to hear it.
    It sure is......great to hear!
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    Dendrobates tinctorius "Green Sipaliwini"
    Dendrobates tinctorius “Powder Blue"
    Dendrobates tinctorius "French Guiana Dwarf Cobalt"

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    Phyllobates terribilis "Orange"
    Phyllobates bicolor "Uraba"

    Oophaga pumilio "Black Jeans"
    Oophaga pumilio "Isla Popa"
    Oophaga pumilio "Bastimentos"
    Oophaga pumilio “Mimbitimbi”
    Oophaga pumilio "Rio Colubre"
    Oophaga pumilio "Red Frog Beach”
    Oophaga pumilio "Rio Branco"
    Oophaga pumilio “Valle del Rey”
    Oophaga pumilio "BriBri"
    Oophaga pumilio "El Dorado"
    Oophaga pumilio "Cristobal"
    Oophaga pumilio "Rambala"

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    Oophaga histrionica "Blue"
    Oophaga lehmanni "Red"
    Oophaga histrionica "Tado"

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