Help! Frog has worms

[Hoppity100]

Oh, thanks for telling me,...Someone else wrote to ask about them. It sounded like something from a vet. I am glad you mentioned them as I can have them on hand. But, are they effective by absorption thru frog's skin? And, there are no antibiotics just vitamins in them?

[Hoppity100]

I would say if you see worms, why waste time with a fecal sample? Just identify them if you need to drop off a sample of worms at a vet's office to identify the type and call stores that are likely to carry medication. A vet tech could identify them. I would try and find a med locally by calling...waiting to have it shipped in the mail easily could be too late. But, that's what I would do. I'd also remove frogs from tank and wash everything, hot water, add vinegar and rinse well. No bleach or soap. Just a thought......

[Lija]

why are you asking for advice if you think you know better and not planning to following any of it? do you have any vet training or at least basic understanding of anatomy and physiology of a frog? you were using probiotics treating prolapse, and now using it for deworming frogs? do you even know what are the probiotics and how they work? I see no point going further into discussion or replying anymore, I feel sorry for your frogs.
everybody here wanted to help your little guys because we deeply a care for well-being of those wonderful creatures and have practical experience and knowledge dealing with a lot of issues. You ignore all the advice given, you're wasting valuable time, you could have gotten meds from ANY vet clinic long ago and your froggies would be on a way to recovery.

[Hoppity100]

Oh,...I'm not the one with the frog getting probiotic. I was helping someone who said they were going to look into that or another med. I did not know about probiotics but now know its a vitamin type med, not antibiotic. I have not heard of frogs sitting in solution of this but did read from another reader it helped their frog with prolapse. That owner said their frog sat in it and was better. But, a vet or vet tech ought to be able to identify worms. As for prolapse...where was prolapse from? I've not heard of this subsiding on its own. Could prolpase have been from frog being constipated then impacted? If so, all the more reason to be careful in feeding them insects that are too large and hard. My frogs are ok, they're having a cricket fest right now.

[Lija]

hoppity, my post was directed to Froggir13, sorry for misunderstanding
probiotics are not vitamins or meds, they consist of few strains of live Lactobacillus microorganisms with added sometimes Bifidobacteria, they are used to help regulate normal HUMAN digestive system microflora. There certain strains of probiotics that are used or dog and cats, but the product is different from human one

[Hoppity100]

You can tell I'm not into homeopathic remedies or supplements that promise big results. I gave lactobacillus to a hamster years ago and I can't say it helped. But, Panacur was mentioned...I guess people are soaking their frogs in it. I'd try warm water for a soak. It would be difficult to give a frog oral medication, but, if necessary an eye dropper might help with that. Getting back to lactobacillus, ...the pet store sells it in small tubes for rodents.

[Froggir13]

I am going to take my frogs to the vet tomorrow to get treatment.

[flybyferns]

I am going to take my frogs to the vet tomorrow to get treatment.

That is wonderful news! Good for you !
Lynn :butterfly

[Hoppity100]

Ok, hope they get better, can you write with an outcome? I'm curious about how they got them. Were they a recent purchase?

[GrifTheGreat]

I'm glad you've desided to do what was advised to you. Everyone here aside from first time froggers know what they're talking about and are only providing the necessary information to help your frog recover.

Questioning the advice given or ignoring it completely is counter-productive and wastes valuable time.

[Hoppity100]

Oh, I wasn't the one who had a frog with worms. I hope the person with this situation gets their frog treated. My frogs don't have them, thankfully.

[Heatheranne]

Just wanted to mention that probiotics will not treat worms. I'm very glad you have decided to seek vet treatment .

[flybyferns]

I am going to take my frogs to the vet tomorrow to get treatment.

Hi,
I'm hoping all is well.
How did you make out of at the vet?
Lynn

[Froggir13]

I still don't have access to a vet although I have tried yet again; exotic pet vets are few & far between. Part of the reason I have queried this forum is due to this, hopefully temporary, lack of access. Thank you for the recommendation of night crawlers as a more nutritious food...I picked some up. As for the probiotics, I actually had taken one frog to an exotic pet vet (long story as to how I actually was able to find one) for a prolapse. Astounding that she was able to put all of the outsides inside. That said, I consulted with a holistic exotic pet vet who confirmed that the probiotics, cat's claw, & aloe vera (a solution that was a product of research from scientists in Australia, etc.) would be a good solution. And it worked! One exotic pet vet said frogs will always have a parasite load. It's a matter of keeping it in balance. I appreciate the concern and the recommendations and still have them as a possibility. I try to use chemical remedies as a last resort as, the way I figure it, some other frogs in the wild have to be at the point of manufacture for those chemicals and at the tail end of the disposal...I'm sure those frogs don't fair as well as the ones receiving treatment in vivariums. But, please note, I do practice integrative medicine and have ruled none of the solutions out and I thank all but the scolding tone of one poster for all of the suggestions.

[Hoppity100]

Thanks for writing but apparently whatever you wrote before got mixed responses. I just hope your frog is ok and it got the right treatment. Can you reassure us your frog is ok with your remedy that worked so fast? Are you going to make any changes in your care?

[Heatheranne]

Probiotics definitely can keep help to keep bacteria in balance when choosing the appropriate ones. Worms though are a parasite needing medication . Parasites can be brought in via feeder insects and plants, though usually from insects. It's tough to know the source unless the frog has repetitive recontaminations after having been treated and cleared of the worms.

Panacur is a proven cure and is inexpensive. The vet provided does not charge a doctors fee, just med payment and fecal test, if requested. Just a thought in case you'd like his help.

I hope your baby gets better soon.

[Hoppity100]

Thanks for writing...my frogs are ok. I'm glad to know about Panacur and I have a vet, not an exotic one. I hope this person's frog is ok, too. Maybe worms did not come from frog but another source? Their size could indicate that. I'd have to know what this frog ate, too.

[flybyferns]

I still don't have access to a vet although I have tried yet again; exotic pet vets are few & far between. Part of the reason I have queried this forum is due to this, hopefully temporary, lack of access. Thank you for the recommendation of night crawlers as a more nutritious food...I picked some up. As for the probiotics, I actually had taken one frog to an exotic pet vet (long story as to how I actually was able to find one) for a prolapse. Astounding that she was able to put all of the outsides inside. That said, I consulted with a holistic exotic pet vet who confirmed that the probiotics, cat's claw, & aloe vera (a solution that was a product of research from scientists in Australia, etc.) would be a good solution. And it worked! One exotic pet vet said frogs will always have a parasite load. It's a matter of keeping it in balance. I appreciate the concern and the recommendations and still have them as a possibility. I try to use chemical remedies as a last resort as, the way I figure it, some other frogs in the wild have to be at the point of manufacture for those chemicals and at the tail end of the disposal...I'm sure those frogs don't fair as well as the ones receiving treatment in vivariums. But, please note, I do practice integrative medicine and have ruled none of the solutions out and I thank all but the scolding tone of one poster for all of the suggestions.

Hi Froggirl13,
I have read lots of material on the cat's claw for boosting their immunity?
I was tempted to use this at one time for a black eyed tree frog that would not eat.
Dr Frye did 3 fecals for this frog of mine. The 1st 2 were negative. The 3rd was positive. The positive fecal was in week four of 6 ... of the frog not eating, and at that point needed force feeding, Metronidazole, and panacur. He was very sick, I almost lost him. It's such a spiral ( the stress and the opportunistic unset of an illness or inability to fight a parasite they may be harboring).

Hope all goes well
Lynn

[Hoppity100]

Thanks for the update, from you both. The earthworms are tricky to feed if they are big, even I had trouble with them. Your approaches to medicine were successful, and if my frog became ill, I would start contacting vets. I do not know where to purchase what you both wrote about. Thankfully, my frogs have not had worms. Another reason I refrain from giving them guppies. I still wonder how they digest crickets! Last night I wasted a number of wax worms because frogs were not near a big rock but floating plants, where I placed some worms. Only 2 ate, other 2 weren't interested. Today I'll make my weekly trip for small crickets. I have to check around for small earthworms (if there are any that are small) and put wax worms back in fridge. But, glad you wrote, its always good to learn from experienced owners.

If I don't write for a while, its because I just adopted a young stray cat from my yard who was found crying out loudly, several nights in the cold. I have been feeding her and managed to get her in the house (long story). She is the sweetest cat I have come across yet! She gets along with my dog and I will get her to the vet when someone helps me get her in a cat carrier. She looks great, just thin. The shelters are full and there is no reason why I can't keep her. Human allergies can now be treated by med put in cat's water, so family can't interfere with me keeping her. I am allergic to cats but after letting her sleep on my bed last night I am not sneezing, wheezing, or itching. Hopefully my allergy is not going to return! But, that's why stores sell Claritin, right? So, I am happy, the cat came on my birthday, and its about time something good happened in my life. I am thrilled to have her. I can update later, too.