Need some help....Impaction

[GrifTheGreat]

I do have one. Great idea, im dumber than **** sometimes...lol. So 80ish for the temps for soaking?

Yes, 78° is exact, but 80° is fine.

[Maharg]

Since we've gone this far we might as well clear this up. I still can't comprehend how 78 degrees or even 80 can be considered a warm bath. What temperature do you keep your tank? If it's at 80, would you not consider a warm bath 5 to 10 degrees warmer? Otherwise, what's the point on calling it a warm bath? Really, I'm not trying to stir the pot here. I'm genuinely curious.

[Pluke]

You know I kind of agree with you Maharg, but I think it's all a matter of being careful. I try to keep all my frogs at 80ish in their enclosures (tub rack). The ambient air for them is about 78 at all times and they don't have anywhere to burrow since they're on filter so that's the temperature they stay at. I bath them in 85, which is only 5 degrees warmer, but it's a sudden warmth not a gradual build up. Now... for people who use substrate for them to burrow, you may be pulling a frog out of substrate that's 70 degrees in a tank thats air is 80, throw them into a 15-20 degree different water may shock them. This is just how I think of it.. I haven't had any ill effect and I am happy with the results.

Grif is the first one to tell me to use lukewarm water but I didn't get a exact temp from him at first, so I assumed 85ish. I tried it and it worked. I've been using that temp since, I didn't find out what he considered lukewarm until months after.. I just haven't changed my ways because it's worked and I've had no hinderance to my frogs.

[Maharg]

I certainly don't disagree that shocking a frog is bad for their health. Potentially fatal. Recommending water at 90 is under the assumption that people keep their tank between 80 and 85. So it's really not that big of a jump. And like pluke said, and I mentioned earlier lukewarm is highly debatable. It depends on peoples judgment and even hand sensitivity. Baring in mind 99% of people won't test the temperature of the water before a bath, most people are probably using 90 degree water and not even knowing it.

[Pluke]

The first time I used a lukewarm soak, I didn't have the heat gun, I went took the heat test with my finger and guessed. I had no idea what the actual temp was, I just new it wasn't warmer than me and that's what I perceived as lukewarm, lol. When I got the heat gun, I did my normal way of heating up water then shot the water to find it was 85 degrees.

I also wanted to add that if I was here asking for advice on something, I would definitely take Grif's advice over mine. He's been caring for them a heck of a lot longer than I have, lol.

[DeeDub]

Update: I put her in 120 degree water and she crapped alot....I mean it looks like she crapped her guts out, literally......I pushed them back in with a pencil eraser, and I think she is fine. She's not moving at all and has her eyes closed. I think she's really relaxed....Thanks for all the great advice folks. I'm glad she'll be alright.

[Pluke]

Yeah... that's a little disturbing. No one said to put her in 120 degree water so I'm not sure if you're serious. If you did and thats what happened, hopefully she will be alright.

[DeeDub]

ok, sorry. Couldn't help myself.....

Anyway, here's the real update (The sad thing is I've seen people post stuff almost as bad as that before).

I've got her soaking now. She is trying like the dickens to shake something loose, but no luck thus far. It seems like the hanger on is just inside the poopshoot. I have been pouring the water on her back and it seems to stimulate pushing. As soon as I put her in the bath she started pushing.

I used the temp gun and the water feels cold to the touch, but is 83 degrees F. I had to have had it way hotter earlier....my bad but she seems ok. Still wants to eat by the way. When I came in, she turned in her water dish towards me when the door opened. She does this when she is hungry usually.

Her water in her enclosure is 83 degrees as well. I will be moving it out from under the black light as she never gets into her water on her own in her cage. I'll see if that changes. I thought it intuitive that if she wanted to ****, she would go to the warm water basking spot. That's what my pyxies do, but thier water feature is large and the water is always cool (82 degrees...just found out..lol).

Tried the rubbing and massaging. Don't really know what someone meant when they said to push gently above the vent. Seems like thats her tailbone (some kind of bone). Her poopshoot is ever so slightly open. As I've been typing this I think the turd has moved toward the opening a little.

Stand by for further reports of expected fecal terrorism.