Need some help....Impaction

[Pluke]

DeeDub, not sure if you have one.. but I use a temp gun to test the temperature of my water. Just shoot the surface of the water and it'll give you a pretty good idea.

[Maharg]

DeeDub, not sure if you have one.. but I use a temp gun to test the temperature of my water. Just shoot the surface of the water and it'll give you a pretty good idea.

That's exactly what I use. The laser gun. Or light amplification by stimulated emission of radiation gun for all the nerds out there.
Anyways, not to beat a dead horse but that's another reason I feel 90 degree water is safe. I used to keep the water dish below the heat lamp like many people recommend for humidity. (I don't any more) The water was frequently in the 90 range and never posed a problem.

[GrifTheGreat]

That's exactly what I use. The laser gun. Or light amplification by stimulated emission of radiation gun for all the nerds out there.
Anyways, not to beat a dead horse but that's another reason I feel 90 degree water is safe. I used to keep the water dish below the heat lamp like many people recommend for humidity. (I don't any more) The water was frequently in the 90 range and never posed a problem.

You're actually not supposed to place the water dish directly under the light other wise it defeats the purpose of the water dish. Its used incase they need to cool off and hydrate, but most use it as a toilet. If you place the dish under the light then have multiple dishes of water so that there is at least one for the frog to use as a extra cooling source.

This also goes for the UTH.

[Maharg]

Yes I stopped doing that almost immediately. Every time I was testing it with the gun it was in the 90s range which I knew was much to hot for constant water temperature.

[DeeDub]

DeeDub, not sure if you have one.. but I use a temp gun to test the temperature of my water. Just shoot the surface of the water and it'll give you a pretty good idea.

I do have one. Great idea, im dumber than **** sometimes...lol. So 80ish for the temps for soaking?

[Pluke]

Haha, it happens to the best of us. The day I got that gun I was using it on everything... well, not EVERYTHING.. but yah. I've got my use out of it.

Apparently everyone has varied opinions about temperatures. I personally go for about 85. Grif recommends 78. I try to keep my tubs at 80ish so I don't really think a 5 degree temp difference will be too much of a shock and the little bit of extra heat I think works as a stimulant itself. As I stated before, I have a frog that I think PREFERS when I bath him and he goes like clockwork every 2 weeks in a 80-85 degree bath. He has never pooped out of the water.. he's a strange little fella.

Lol! He has you trained.

[GrifTheGreat]

I do have one. Great idea, im dumber than **** sometimes...lol. So 80ish for the temps for soaking?

Yes, 78° is exact, but 80° is fine.

[Maharg]

Since we've gone this far we might as well clear this up. I still can't comprehend how 78 degrees or even 80 can be considered a warm bath. What temperature do you keep your tank? If it's at 80, would you not consider a warm bath 5 to 10 degrees warmer? Otherwise, what's the point on calling it a warm bath? Really, I'm not trying to stir the pot here. I'm genuinely curious.

[Pluke]

You know I kind of agree with you Maharg, but I think it's all a matter of being careful. I try to keep all my frogs at 80ish in their enclosures (tub rack). The ambient air for them is about 78 at all times and they don't have anywhere to burrow since they're on filter so that's the temperature they stay at. I bath them in 85, which is only 5 degrees warmer, but it's a sudden warmth not a gradual build up. Now... for people who use substrate for them to burrow, you may be pulling a frog out of substrate that's 70 degrees in a tank thats air is 80, throw them into a 15-20 degree different water may shock them. This is just how I think of it.. I haven't had any ill effect and I am happy with the results.

Grif is the first one to tell me to use lukewarm water but I didn't get a exact temp from him at first, so I assumed 85ish. I tried it and it worked. I've been using that temp since, I didn't find out what he considered lukewarm until months after.. I just haven't changed my ways because it's worked and I've had no hinderance to my frogs.

[Maharg]

I certainly don't disagree that shocking a frog is bad for their health. Potentially fatal. Recommending water at 90 is under the assumption that people keep their tank between 80 and 85. So it's really not that big of a jump. And like pluke said, and I mentioned earlier lukewarm is highly debatable. It depends on peoples judgment and even hand sensitivity. Baring in mind 99% of people won't test the temperature of the water before a bath, most people are probably using 90 degree water and not even knowing it.

[Pluke]

The first time I used a lukewarm soak, I didn't have the heat gun, I went took the heat test with my finger and guessed. I had no idea what the actual temp was, I just new it wasn't warmer than me and that's what I perceived as lukewarm, lol. When I got the heat gun, I did my normal way of heating up water then shot the water to find it was 85 degrees.

I also wanted to add that if I was here asking for advice on something, I would definitely take Grif's advice over mine. He's been caring for them a heck of a lot longer than I have, lol.