Need some help....Impaction

[DVirginiana]

Thanks for all the replies...lol.

I estimated 100 degrees based on my body temp being roughly 98ish. It felt warm to me so I figured 100 ish....I see the flaw, my hands might be cooler than 98. Either way, the "100" degree water I used was slowly mixed with cooler water the frog was soaking in for the exact reason you and I stated. I see where your concern lies and you are right, shouldn't shock their system. I made sure I didn't. She passed a little more poo in her water dish while I was gone. I'll honey soak her again in a couple hours. I did the massage, but didn't dare push too hard and I'm pretty sure the big bump on the right side is the roach. It doesn't feel rounded like the ones on the left.

Sometimes it takes them awhile to fully pass a bad impaction. Even afterward, they can still act a little off for a few days depending on how bad it was.

I was actually wondering how you got 100 degree water unless you boiled it or used the microwave lol. I think there is a rule about how often you can do honey soaks? Grif will probably be able to tell you more about that. No limit that I'm aware of with the pedialyte though.

[Maharg]

Sometimes it takes them awhile to fully pass a bad impaction. Even afterward, they can still act a little off for a few days depending on how bad it was.

I was actually wondering how you got 100 degree water unless you boiled it or used the microwave lol. I think there is a rule about how often you can do honey soaks? Grif will probably be able to tell you more about that. No limit that I'm aware of with the pedialyte though.

We are talking fahrenheit lol. If I was talking celsius id be one sick puppy. Or really a fan of frog legs. Lol.

[Pluke]

DeeDub, not sure if you have one.. but I use a temp gun to test the temperature of my water. Just shoot the surface of the water and it'll give you a pretty good idea.

[Maharg]

DeeDub, not sure if you have one.. but I use a temp gun to test the temperature of my water. Just shoot the surface of the water and it'll give you a pretty good idea.

That's exactly what I use. The laser gun. Or light amplification by stimulated emission of radiation gun for all the nerds out there.
Anyways, not to beat a dead horse but that's another reason I feel 90 degree water is safe. I used to keep the water dish below the heat lamp like many people recommend for humidity. (I don't any more) The water was frequently in the 90 range and never posed a problem.

[GrifTheGreat]

That's exactly what I use. The laser gun. Or light amplification by stimulated emission of radiation gun for all the nerds out there.
Anyways, not to beat a dead horse but that's another reason I feel 90 degree water is safe. I used to keep the water dish below the heat lamp like many people recommend for humidity. (I don't any more) The water was frequently in the 90 range and never posed a problem.

You're actually not supposed to place the water dish directly under the light other wise it defeats the purpose of the water dish. Its used incase they need to cool off and hydrate, but most use it as a toilet. If you place the dish under the light then have multiple dishes of water so that there is at least one for the frog to use as a extra cooling source.

This also goes for the UTH.

[Maharg]

Yes I stopped doing that almost immediately. Every time I was testing it with the gun it was in the 90s range which I knew was much to hot for constant water temperature.

[DeeDub]

DeeDub, not sure if you have one.. but I use a temp gun to test the temperature of my water. Just shoot the surface of the water and it'll give you a pretty good idea.

I do have one. Great idea, im dumber than **** sometimes...lol. So 80ish for the temps for soaking?

[Pluke]

Haha, it happens to the best of us. The day I got that gun I was using it on everything... well, not EVERYTHING.. but yah. I've got my use out of it.

Apparently everyone has varied opinions about temperatures. I personally go for about 85. Grif recommends 78. I try to keep my tubs at 80ish so I don't really think a 5 degree temp difference will be too much of a shock and the little bit of extra heat I think works as a stimulant itself. As I stated before, I have a frog that I think PREFERS when I bath him and he goes like clockwork every 2 weeks in a 80-85 degree bath. He has never pooped out of the water.. he's a strange little fella.

Lol! He has you trained.

[GrifTheGreat]

I do have one. Great idea, im dumber than **** sometimes...lol. So 80ish for the temps for soaking?

Yes, 78° is exact, but 80° is fine.

[Maharg]

Since we've gone this far we might as well clear this up. I still can't comprehend how 78 degrees or even 80 can be considered a warm bath. What temperature do you keep your tank? If it's at 80, would you not consider a warm bath 5 to 10 degrees warmer? Otherwise, what's the point on calling it a warm bath? Really, I'm not trying to stir the pot here. I'm genuinely curious.

[Pluke]

You know I kind of agree with you Maharg, but I think it's all a matter of being careful. I try to keep all my frogs at 80ish in their enclosures (tub rack). The ambient air for them is about 78 at all times and they don't have anywhere to burrow since they're on filter so that's the temperature they stay at. I bath them in 85, which is only 5 degrees warmer, but it's a sudden warmth not a gradual build up. Now... for people who use substrate for them to burrow, you may be pulling a frog out of substrate that's 70 degrees in a tank thats air is 80, throw them into a 15-20 degree different water may shock them. This is just how I think of it.. I haven't had any ill effect and I am happy with the results.

Grif is the first one to tell me to use lukewarm water but I didn't get a exact temp from him at first, so I assumed 85ish. I tried it and it worked. I've been using that temp since, I didn't find out what he considered lukewarm until months after.. I just haven't changed my ways because it's worked and I've had no hinderance to my frogs.